my black and tan didnt layer right.

[jonathan_matos5]

is it because i used Guinness extra stout or is it because i suck at layering?

it still taste good but what happened?

[Trevorus]

From wikipedia:

To prepare a Black and Tan in the American way, first fill a glass halfway with the ale, then add the Guinness Draught (from the can, bottle, or tap). The top layer is best poured slowly over an upside-down tablespoon placed over the glass to avoid splashing and mixing the layers. A specially designed black-and-tan spoon is bent in the middle so that it can balance on the edge of the pint-glass for easier pouring.

[jonathan_matos5]

i used a spoon. it still mixed

[Trevorus]

What 2 beers did you use? Having them mixed is the UK way... (at least according to wikipedia)

[Mark Wilson]

I've never heard of this.
What's it taste like?

[jonathan_matos5]

Originally Posted by Trevorus

What 2 beers did you use? Having them mixed is the UK way... (at least according to wikipedia)

bass ale and guinness extra stout

[jonathan_matos5]

Originally Posted by Mark Wilson

I've never heard of this.
What's it taste like?

sweet nectar of the beer gods

[jonathan_matos5]

i just read the wikipedia article and apparently i wasn't supposed to use guinness extra stout i was supposed to use the guinness draught

Originally Posted by wiki

The two most common types of Black and Tan in the United States use Guinness Draught (not Extra Stout) and either Bass, or Harp Lager. Although, Guinness and Harp is more commonly referred to as a Half and Half. The "layering" of Guinness on top of the ale is possible because the relative density of Guinness is less than that of the ale. Note: the layering is often mistakenly attributed to the fact that Guinness is partly carbonated with the lighter nitrogen gas but this theory is disproved by the fact that Black and Tans were around long before Guinness started putting nitrogen into stout.

[spade2you]

Originally Posted by jonathan_matos5

sweet nectar of the beer gods

Pretty much. Even though it's really cool when it separates properly, it's still mighty tasty if it doesn't separate.

[smperry]

Originally Posted by spade2you

Pretty much. Even though it's really cool when it separates properly, it's still mighty tasty if it doesn't separate.

seconded.

m

[SuperDuck]

A well-made Black&Tan is what makes life worth living. If you're doing it at home, you get bonus cool points for having a B&T turtle:
http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...1&SKU=13852120

You lose a few points if you get it at BB&B, though. That was just the first link.

[jonathan_matos5]

Originally Posted by SuperDuck

A well-made Black&Tan is what makes life worth living. If you're doing it at home, you get bonus cool points for having a B&T turtle:
http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...1&SKU=13852120

You lose a few points if you get it at BB&B, though. That was just the first link.

the third B is for BYOB not beyond

[SuperDuck]

Watch out for that Beyond section.

[MJ5150]

I have never had this before, or even heard of it. I will have to head out here shortly and go try it. Is this a standard drink your average bartender will know how to make if I ask for a "black and tan"?

-Mike

[Unrepresented]

Originally Posted by MJ5150

I have never had this before, or even heard of it. I will have to head out here shortly and go try it. Is this a standard drink your average bartender will know how to make if I ask for a "black and tan"?

-Mike

They should. Fairly common, especially if you're at an Irish or English style pub.

[SuperDuck]

Good gravy people, how can you not have heard of a black and tan?!

Here are some variants from the Wiki article, most of which I've never had, a few I have. I am particularly partial to a black and blue.
Half and half
In Ireland, a traditional Half and Half consists of half warm or room temperature Guinness and half chilled Guinness. In the early days, refrigeration was of course unavailable. As refrigeration came into existence in the 20th century, it was found that a mixture of the two temperatures created the perfect drinking temperature for Guinness. Most Guinness poured in Ireland is served at about this temperature, roughly 44 degrees Fahrenheit (6° Celsius). In the United States, Half and Half consists of Harp (NOT Harp's or Harps) Lager topped with Guinness. Half and half implies that both ales come from the Guinness Brewery.

Other variations, listed alphabetically:

* All Irish Black & Tan, aka, Blacksmith, aka, Irish Nectar, aka, Pint of Special: Guinness Stout and Smithwick's Irish Ale
* Back in Black: Half Guinness and half Sid Richardson College lager. The name is a reference to the AC/DC song by the same name which serves as the official anthem to the 8th of the 11 Rice University colleges.
* Black & Cherry: Guinness and Samuel Adams Cherry Wheat
* Black & Gold, aka, Black Apple: Half Guinness Stout and half hard cider (e.g., Westons or Woodchuck). Sometimes incorrectly referred to as a snakebite, which is actually a mixture of half lager and half cider. When made specifically with Woodchuck Cider it is also called a Stout Woody
* Black & Gold: Half Guinness and Half Great Lakes Dortmunder Gold
* Black & Red: Half Guinness and half Red Stripe
* Black & Red, aka, Red Velvet: Half chocolate stout over half raspberry or cherry lambic
* Black & Sam, aka, Patriot Pint, aka, Boston Half & Half: Guinness and Samuel Adams Boston Lager
* Black & Blue: Stout with Blue Moon Belgian White, or stout and blueberry ale, Guinness and Pabst Blue Ribbon, Guinness and Labatt Blue. Typically, this refers to any variation of stout coupled with blueberry-flavored ales or brands with the name "Blue" in them.
* Black & Orange: Stout and pumpkin ale: Also known as a "Black & Blumpkin", a "Black-O-Blumpkin", or a "Blackhead" (Guinness and Shipyard Pumpkinhead of Portland, Maine. The Gilded Otter Brewpub in New Paltz, New York calls this mixture a Stumpkin.
* Black & White: Stout with any light colored beer.
* Black Bastard, aka, Arrogant Black: Guinness and Arrogant Bastard Ale, an American strong ale from Stone Brewing Company of San Marcos, California.
* Black Castle: Half Guinness and half Newcastle Brown Ale.
* Black Christmas, aka, Kwanzaa: Guinness draught over Christmas Ale.
* Black Cow: Half Guinness and half New Glarus Spotted Cow
* Black Dead Guy: Half Guinness and Half Rogue Dead Guy Ale
* Black Girl: Half Guinness and St. Pauli Girl
* Black Hoe: Half Guinness and half Hoegaarden.
* Black Honey: Half Guinness and Half Honey Brown
* Black Honky: Half Guinness and Half Goose Island Honker's Ale
* Black Magic: Half Guinness and Half Magic Hat #9
* Black Negra: Half Guinness, Half Negra Modelo
* Black on Blonde, aka, Blonde Redhead' (Invented by Christopher Donaldson): A mixture of (slightly more than) half Guinness and (slightly less than) half Stella Artois (The plural form would be Blacks on Blonde.)
* Black Sap: Half Guinness and Sapporo
* Black Scotch Ale: Half Guinness and Half Sam Adam's Scotch Ale
* Black Tire: Half Guinness and half New Belgium Fat Tire
* Blacks on Blondes: Half Young's Double Chocolate Stout and half Pete's Wicked Strawberry Blonde
* Dark & Steamy (invented by Joe Fahrner): Half Anchor Steam Beer and half Guinness
* Dirty Bush (Traditional): Half stout Guinness half Bush Light Mixed Seasonally.
* Eclipse, aka, Black Moon, aka, Dark Side of the Moon: Half Guinness and Half Blue Moon
* Garnet and Black: Guinness and Killian's Irish Red. This is a regional variation in South Carolina, named after the school colors of the University of South Carolina.
* The Greatness: Half Guinness and Half Great White. (Great White is from Lost Coast Brewery in Eureka, Ca.)
* Green Goblin (invented by Geoff Wayne): Half Heineken and half Hobgoblin
* Imperial Black & Tan (invented by David Hatling): Half Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale and half Brooklyn Brewery Black Chocolate Stout
* Innis & Guinness (invented by Brent Swallowell): Half Innis & Gunn and half Guinness
* Irish Anarchist: Any Irish stout atop any Irish red ale. The name is a reference to the anarchist-syndicalist flag, which is black and red.
* Irish American: Half Guinness and half Budweiser.
* Irish Canadian: Half Guinness and half Molson Canadian
* Old Dirty Englishman: Half Guinness and half Tetley's
* Philadelphia Black & Tan: Half Guinness Stout and half Yuengling Lager
* Pint of Special, aka, 99: Similar to the all Irish Black and Tan served mostly in the west of Ireland. Made with more than 75% Smithwick's topped up with a Guinness head
* Raging Inferno: Half Guinness, Half Firehouse American Pale Ale
* Red Velvet: Half Guinness, Half Raspberry Cider Jack
* San Patricios: Half Guinness and half any Mexican beer (Corona, Pacifico, Dos Equis, Negro Modelo)
* Smoothie: Half any hard draft cider and half Guinness
* Snake Bite: Half any hard draft cider and half any lager
* Sweet Black and Tan: Sweetheart Stout and any light ale (i.e. 60 shilling)
* Tetness: Half Guinness and half Tetley's
* Tetness Shot: Part Guinness and part Tetley's and part Starbucks Coffee Liqueur. Be careful; this one stings a bit!
* Thistle & Shamrock: Beamish & McEwan's

[peterbright]

Amazing especially the turtle

[cheezewiz]

Just stop being a wuss and drink the Guinness straight. (OK, so I like black and tan too.....)

[jonathan_matos5]

Originally Posted by cheezewiz

Just stop being a wuss and drink the Guinness straight. (OK, so I like black and tan too.....)

thats what i did before and after my black and tan

[joeyl]

you forgot blackened tampon: Half Stout half Framboise beer