NANNYGATE, who's watching the Clemens/McNamee hearings?

mattsk42 · #1 02-13-2008, 10:58 AM

I liked Bob Ley's Nannygate name.

Anyway, what's everyone's thoughts? I thought the IN guy was WAY too emotional and just sounded like he was being Clemens' lawyer more than actually seeking out facts. (whether he was right or not has no bearing, I just thought it was a bad way of doing it)

FL Knifemaker · #2 02-13-2008, 11:25 AM

I doubt Roger is being completely truthfull. Clemens is taking advantage of the trainers record of being WAY less that truthfull. It's interesting.

I like Waxmans pig nose, that thing cracks me up

The guy has vertical nostrils!!!

Bad Brains · #3 02-13-2008, 11:28 AM

I think the steriods scandle is good for baseball. This is playing off as some kind of weird movie script.

I don't care about the integrity of the game or professional sports in general, so I'm enjoying this. As far as I'm concerned, these guys are just a bunch of rich overpayed brutes who throw and hit a ball around on a field. Clemens may or may not be guilty, but he's still going to have a hefty bank account and a mansion at the end of the day.

mattsk42 · #4 02-13-2008, 11:29 AM

Yeah, so does that girl that was standing to our left and behind someone.

I agree that they're both not being truthful. There's no way you can say either one has FULL credibility.

**Adam Barkley** · #5 02-13-2008, 11:30 AM

I think both are doing a fair amount of stretching their allegations to the limits.

mike_v_s · #6 02-13-2008, 11:47 AM

I think it's sad that my taxpaying dollars are being spent on this.

Mike

Marcus Johnson · #7 02-13-2008, 11:57 AM

I just heard him on the radio, saying something like "If I'm guilty of anything, I'm guilty of being too trusting, of being too nice to people".

Pathetic.

Woodchuck · #8 02-13-2008, 12:23 PM

Roger is lying through his nose, and it's obvious that some of these congress people got autographed baseballs.

FL Knifemaker · #9 02-13-2008, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodchuck

Roger is lying through his nose, and it's obvious that some of these congress people got autographed baseballs.

He will have to be PROVEN guilty. I don't think they will be able to do that.

Woodchuck · #10 02-13-2008, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FL Knifemaker

He will have to be PROVEN guilty. I don't think they will be able to do that.

They didn't have a problem trying to do it with Bonds.

mike_v_s · #11 02-13-2008, 12:30 PM

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They didn't have a problem trying to do it with Bonds.

Thus entering another phase of my disgust with this whole thing. At this point, you either hang all of MLB or forget it....I'd be happy with either.

Bonds was a scapegoat. Purgery? You have got to be kidding me. Lesser men have gotten off with more at stake.

Mike

mjolnir · #12 02-13-2008, 12:34 PM

Um... Why is this such a freaking big deal?

**SoComSurfing** · #13 02-13-2008, 12:43 PM

I haven't been able to watch too much of it, but I have it on in one of the conference rooms near my office, and sneak a peek when I can. I also listened to Colin Cowherd this morning, who continually broke into the hearing during his show. I should be getting a transcription in the next few days, so I'll try to avoid most judgment until I get to read over that.

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Originally Posted by Bad Brains

I think the steriods scandle is good for baseball. This is playing off as some kind of weird movie script.
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I agree with this statement 100%! How often is ESPN covering baseball during the Super Bowl week?! This is keeping baseball of people's mind for the entire off-season, and might even draw back some of the viewers who may not have returned since the '94 strike.

Did anyone catch John Rocker's comments yesterday? I thought that was a pretty interesting turn of events. When this whole "performance enhancing" thing came into the spotlight, I wondered about him. He was always pretty big for a pitcher, and certainly had/has a temper!

buzzbass · #14 02-13-2008, 01:01 PM

What a shame this whole thing has become. Doesn't Congress have more pressing issues to concern itself with. Macnamee came off(to me) as a weird little creep, with an ax to grind. Even if he did shoot those guys up, so what. Why would you keep needles and gauze for 7+ years. The whole thing reeks. Whether Clemmens has used or not is irrelevant. They're only talking since 2000/2001, the bulk of his career and accomplishments were before then. The truth is that all the roids in the world won't turn a chump into a champ. You had to have the talent 1st.

unbasslichkeit · #15 02-13-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mjolnir

Um... Why is this such a freaking big deal?

Whenver I see a story like this on Page 1, I automatically read through to Page 31 to see what else is being hidden from us.

mattsk42 · #16 02-13-2008, 01:20 PM

Well whether he used or not IS relevant in the fact that they're ILLEGAL drugs. That's not to say that the dealer shouldn't get prosecuted as well, but they ARE illegal no matter what benefits you get from them.

Either way, I don't want this to get into the whole debate on steroids or records or any of that. I just want to see who people think is telling less truth than the other based on the coverage today.

Lesfunk · #17 02-13-2008, 01:23 PM

I chose carrots cuz they're closer to parsnips than Clemens.

Stinsok · #18 02-13-2008, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzbass

What a shame this whole thing has become. Doesn't Congress have more pressing issues to concern itself with. Macnamee came off(to me) as a weird little creep, with an ax to grind. Even if he did shoot those guys up, so what. Why would you keep needles and gauze for 7+ years. The whole thing reeks. Whether Clemmens has used or not is irrelevant. They're only talking since 2000/2001, the bulk of his career and accomplishments were before then. The truth is that all the roids in the world won't turn a chump into a champ. You had to have the talent 1st.

I agree and I wonder why he is having to testify(under oath) before one of the most notorious criminal gangs in the world?

mike_v_s · #19 02-13-2008, 03:58 PM

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I agree and I wonder why he is having to testify(under oath) before one of the most notorious criminal gangs in the world?

I had no idea teh Vatos were conducting these hearings.

Mike

dangnewt · #20 02-13-2008, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FL Knifemaker

I doubt Roger is being completely truthfull. Clemens is taking advantage of the trainers record of being WAY less that truthfull. It's interesting.

I've read a bunch on the subject and haven't read anyone state it quite that way. But that sounds exactly right.

Reminds me of the old joke about the two hunters being chased by a bear. One says why are we running? We can't outrun a bear. The other says, I know that, but I can outrun you.

That said, it doesn't look good for the Texas Con Man, Roger seems to be having trouble appearing more truthful than McNamee.