NBA rules/plays you hate

[Chris Fitzgerald]

I'd like to start off by saying that I don't watch as much NBA as I used to, but still enjoy what I am able to catch a great deal. The athleticism and grace of some of the players is astounding, and the renewed focus on assists by some young players is great to see. I still like the playoffs and the jostling for position that leads up to them.

But some of the rules that exist and the plays that occur as a result really take the fun out of the game for me at times. My short list:

1) If you fake a shot and the man guarding you jumps to contest your shot, jump into his body, get up a half ***ed shot, then flop to the floor while yelling like a wounded banshee. You'll get a foul called every time.

2) If you're an all star guard or small forward, barrel out of control into the lane, run into somebody on purpose, yell, then flop with arms and legs flailing. You'll get a foul call 9 times out of 10. EDIT: and on that 10th time when you don't get the call, stare at/argue with the ref to make sure you get that call the next 9 times.

3) Traveling, period. What's so hard about the "2 steps and done" rule many of us older folks grew up with?

4) Palming the ball. It was illegal before, it should be illegal now.


I'm sure other folks will add to this beginning, and I'm curious to see what others have to say. I'd just like to add that D. Wade and Kobe are great players, but I might actually appreciate them a lot more if they didn't get away with 1) and 2) on multiple occasions every night, especially when it affects the outcome of the games and other "lesser" players don't seem to get the same consideration.

[santucci218]

Honestly, basketball just..no offense to fans, but i really hate the game. it is really uninteresting to me. Raise the hoop to 20 feet and i might watch it.

[CrispyDelicious]

Originally Posted by santucci218

Honestly, basketball just..no offense to fans, but i really hate the game. it is really uninteresting to me. Raise the hoop to 20 feet and i might watch it.

If the ball ejected 1 inch spikes in all directions every 5 seconds, it would certainly pick up the pace.

Though you have a point. The game was originally conceived as having a net higher than the players could reach, so they were forced to make skillful shots, no?

[MakiSupaStar]

Originally Posted by Chris Fitzgerald

I'd like to start off by saying that I don't watch as much NBA as I used to, but still enjoy what I am able to catch a great deal. The athleticism and grace of some of the players is astounding, and the renewed focus on assists by some young players is great to see. I still like the playoffs and the jostling for position that leads up to them.

But some of the rules that exist and the plays that occur as a result really take the fun out of the game for me at times. My short list:

1) If you fake a shot and the man guarding you jumps to contest your shot, jump into his body, get up a half ***ed shot, then flop to the floor while yelling like a wounded banshee. You'll get a foul called every time.

2) If you're an all star guard or small forward, barrel out of control into the lane, run into somebody on purpose, yell, then flop with arms and legs flailing. You'll get a foul call 9 times out of 10.

3) Traveling, period. What's so hard about the "2 steps and done" rule many of us older folks grew up with?

4) Palming the ball. It was illegal before, it should be illegal now.


I'm sure other folks will add to this beginning, and I'm curious to see what others have to say. I'd just like to add that D. Wade and Kobe are great players, but I might actually appreciate them a lot more if they didn't get away with 1) and 2) on multiple occasions every night, especially when it affects the outcome of the games and other "lesser" players don't seem to get the same consideration.

I'm a fan of Kobe (not his mouth and attitude) and his playing but I'd like to add that he gets away with number 3 a lot too.

As does this guy. Also a great flop in this too.
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[Passinwind]

Originally Posted by Chris Fitzgerald

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3) Traveling, period. What's so hard about the "2 steps and done" rule many of us older folks grew up with?

+1 zillion

"Wont you give me three steps,
Gimme three steps mister,
Gimme three steps towards the hoop?"

Except make that more like 5.

[tycobb73]

I follow pretty much every sport except basketball for the following reasons:

Every dunk is pretty much a travel
There is no defense

[Fontaine]

Originally Posted by MakiSupaStar

As does this guy. Also a great flop in this too.
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god **** it is a 7footer running the baseline!!!!

[WickedPissah]

I don't follow the NBA much. I like individual players more than I like any team. The NCAA tournament though, I love that!

[MakiSupaStar]

Originally Posted by Fontaine

god **** it is a 7footer running the baseline!!!!

Oh, I see he can't count once he reaches past the 6'5" mark, so we give him a pass?

[Fontaine]

Originally Posted by MakiSupaStar

Oh, I see he can't count once he reaches past the 6'5" mark, so we give him a pass?

no they just tend to cut 7 footers a break when they decide to run. (they could hurt somebody!)

[Atoz]

Originally Posted by Fontaine

no they just tend to cut 7 footers a break when they decide to run. (they could hurt somebody!)

Olajuwon walked two miles a night throughout his career and was never called for it, so I can see how you'd get that idea.

[Ripper]

im not a real fan of the sport... i can watch it occasionally though.



i think that they could make it more interesting by having boards around it like hockey/indoor lacrosse... that plus the ability to hit/check/fight without calling fouls would make it a sport to watch!

[dean owens]

Originally Posted by Chris Fitzgerald

I'd like to start off by saying that I don't watch as much NBA as I used to, but still enjoy what I am able to catch a great deal. The athleticism and grace of some of the players is astounding, and the renewed focus on assists by some young players is great to see. I still like the playoffs and the jostling for position that leads up to them.

i agree. i'm in nc so it's all about college ball. i think i might be the only guy who likes the nba here. but i'm not ashamed... i love the nba. the athleticism is AMAZING. the stuff those guys can do blows my mind. and it's really cool to see a resurgence of team play and assists.

Originally Posted by Chris Fitzgerald

But some of the rules that exist and the plays that occur as a result really take the fun out of the game for me at times. My short list:

1) If you fake a shot and the man guarding you jumps to contest your shot, jump into his body, get up a half ***ed shot, then flop to the floor while yelling like a wounded banshee. You'll get a foul called every time.

OH MY GOODNESS I CAN'T STAND THAT. i understand that if you get someone in the air and you go up for a real shot and they foul you that you should get that call. but HOW THE HECK DO YOU JUMP INTO SOMEONE and they are the ones that fouled you? i can't speak strong enough about how much i hate that rule.

Originally Posted by Chris Fitzgerald

2) If you're an all star guard or small forward, barrel out of control into the lane, run into somebody on purpose, yell, then flop with arms and legs flailing. You'll get a foul call 9 times out of 10. EDIT: and on that 10th time when you don't get the call, stare at/argue with the ref to make sure you get that call the next 9 times.

agreed again. and this brings up two that are pretty annoying to me. focusing on that word flop... i wish they would come up with a rule that if there is an obvious flop that the player is fined and the other team gets the automatic points, two free throws and the ball back. they need to stop floppers - anderson varejao
and the blocking/charge calls are so subjective. and that dang defensive circle.

Originally Posted by Chris Fitzgerald

3) Traveling, period. What's so hard about the "2 steps and done" rule many of us older folks grew up with?

agree. unless it's a "crab-dribble"

Originally Posted by Chris Fitzgerald

4) Palming the ball. It was illegal before, it should be illegal now.

hard to disagree with that.

Originally Posted by Chris Fitzgerald

I'm sure other folks will add to this beginning, and I'm curious to see what others have to say. I'd just like to add that D. Wade and Kobe are great players, but I might actually appreciate them a lot more if they didn't get away with 1) and 2) on multiple occasions every night, especially when it affects the outcome of the games and other "lesser" players don't seem to get the same consideration.

i think other than flopping you pretty much nailed the things wrong with the nba. it's still amazing to watch. but i wish there were real basketball rules applied to them. but i do have to say.... lay off d wade. he's probably my favorite player in years. hope he gets the mvp. i don't think he will... but i think he should.

good post.

[Ground Pounder]

They need to do two things:

1) Re-instate the hand-check.
2) Re-outlaw any type of zone defense.

Tough, down and dirty one-on-one defense is what made basketball great in the 80's. The guys that averaged 20-10 were not only talented, but tough as **** to boot.

[crimson_basser]

The NBA is killing younger basketball associations trying to teach kids proper basketball. They see all their superstars traveling, carrying, forcing shots and fouls etc etc etc and bring it to their courts. Its terrible, because the quality of ball has degraded so much in the past years.

Take this from a ref of over 7 years.

[narud]

the tuck rule......................oh sorry this is a nba thread

[Atoz]

Originally Posted by narud

the tuck rule......................oh sorry this is a nba thread

HAHA.

The Wang Fu avatar is awesome, BTW.

[bigfatbass]

Exactly, they want to give LeBron a medal for passing like it's some alien talent. The kid moves without the ball, and plays fundamental b-ball well. That should not be a shock to the league, but apparently they haven't seen anything like it since the 80s.

+ the proverbial zillion about the carrying and traveling. More ball palming than the Bunny Ranch, and apparently if you can jump from the free throw line and dunk, you are allowed as long a run as you like to make it happen.

college b-ball rules! Go 'Cuse!

[dave64o]

Originally Posted by crimson_basser

The NBA is killing younger basketball associations trying to teach kids proper basketball. They see all their superstars traveling, carrying, forcing shots and fouls etc etc etc and bring it to their courts. Its terrible, because the quality of ball has degraded so much in the past years.

Take this from a ref of over 7 years.

I've seen more and more of that in the leagues my 11 year old son plays in. This past winter one of his coaches even told them not to watch the NBA. Instead he suggested watching women's college basketball since they play a game much closer to what the boys are playing at this age - passing, defense, setting up plays, shot selection, and especially no dunking.

I also hate the NBA rule that says the more you make per year the fewer rules you have to follow.

[crimson_basser]

Originally Posted by dave64o

I've seen more and more of that in the leagues my 11 year old son plays in. This past winter one of his coaches even told them not to watch the NBA. Instead he suggested watching women's college basketball since they play a game much closer to what the boys are playing at this age - passing, defense, setting up plays, shot selection, and especially no dunking.

I also hate the NBA rule that says the more you make per year the fewer rules you have to follow.

My dad is the director of all of the boys at my local league, and this year he changed all the team names from NBA names to college teams.

He also encourages the watching of college ball over NBA constantly.

Even though i must say, there are some things that are changing in college as well, nothing major (yet) but theyre starting to get away with a few calls, and i dont like it.