Neutrino's faster than light - confirmed!

[Sublab]

After the first experiment proposed the faster than light travel of neutrino's, they have now tested those first findings with altered experiments, and lo and behold!

I only have a Dutch news item - you guys interested in Dutch yeah?

[sloasdaylight]

sure, google translate might not be perfect, but it'll probably work fairly well.

[sandmangeck]

That is awesome!

[i_got_a_mohawk]

Still waiting for this one to get through peer review. A repeat of the experiment only confirms that they are getting similar readings, it still does not rule out some form of error within the experiment (hence waiting for greater validation that a press release/general media).

Still very interesting stuff, hard to grasp the implications if this turns out to be true/verified.

Revised submission of the paper is here, if anyone is interested:

http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1109/1109.4897.pdf


However, I wonder why they have picked a relatively low impact factor journal. If this is all verified, this would very easily be in Nature or Science!

[MJ5150]

You guys talking about those giant rats all over New Orleans and the Bayou?

-Mike

[sloasdaylight]

Originally Posted by i_got_a_mohawk

Still waiting for this one to get through peer review. A repeat of the experiment only confirms that they are getting similar readings, it still does not rule out some form of error within the experiment (hence waiting for greater validation that a press release/general media).

Still very interesting stuff, hard to grasp the implications if this turns out to be true/verified.

Revised submission of the paper is here, if anyone is interested:

http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1109/1109.4897.pdf


However, I wonder why they have picked a relatively low impact factor journal. If this is all verified, this would very easily be in Nature or Science!

They (Science/Nature) are probably waiting for the experiment to be peer reviewed and tested to death before they print an article saying that faster than light travel is actually possible and has actually happened.

[sloasdaylight]

Originally Posted by MJ5150

You guys talking about those giant rats all over New Orleans and the Bayou?

-Mike

Also, lulz.

[drteeth]

Originally Posted by i_got_a_mohawk

Still waiting for this one to get through peer review. A repeat of the experiment only confirms that they are getting similar readings, it still does not rule out some form of error within the experiment (hence waiting for greater validation that a press release/general media).

Still very interesting stuff, hard to grasp the implications if this turns out to be true/verified.

Revised submission of the paper is here, if anyone is interested:

http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1109/1109.4897.pdf


However, I wonder why they have picked a relatively low impact factor journal. If this is all verified, this would very easily be in Nature or Science!

I love the front page.

[mrpackerguy]

So does this eman the laws of physics are wrong?

[PSPookie]

Originally Posted by MJ5150

You guys talking about those giant rats all over New Orleans and the Bayou?

-Mike

Faster-than-light nutrias would be truly terrifying

Originally Posted by mrpackerguy

So does this eman the laws of physics are wrong?

Nope, just in need of some minor revision for certain special cases.

[Jim Nazium]

Hmm, that's interesting. The last thing I read bout this, a week or two ago, was that the original experiment hadn't properly accounted for the motion of the GPS satellites, and if you account for that, the neutrinos travel at light speed. I don't know nearly enough about physics to have an opinion either way, but here's the link:

Faster-than-Light Neutrino Puzzle Claimed Solved by Special Relativity - Technology Review

[Jim Nazium]

Originally Posted by mrpackerguy

So does this eman the laws of physics are wrong?

Excuse me for being pedantic, but I would say that (if the results are confirmed) it means the equations we have been using to describe the laws of physics are wrong or incomplete. The laws themselves are what they are and can never be wrong.

[i_got_a_mohawk]

Originally Posted by sloasdaylight

They (Science/Nature) are probably waiting for the experiment to be peer reviewed and tested to death before they print an article saying that faster than light travel is actually possible and has actually happened.

Nature and Science are for big breaks like this, the article wouldn't be written by Science/Nature but the scientists who wrote the current one.

If the authors had submitted to either (Science/Nature) they would be needing to jump through all the peer reviewed hoops to get it published, it would just likely be a bit stricter (but on saying that, something of this calibre will be scrutinized very heavily anyway).

As said, I just found it to be a bit of a quirk.

Originally Posted by Jim Nazium

Hmm, that's interesting. The last thing I read bout this, a week or two ago, was that the original experiment hadn't properly accounted for the motion of the GPS satellites, and if you account for that, the netrionos travel at light speed. I don't know nearly enough about physics to have an opinion either way, but here's the link:

Faster-than-Light Neutrino Puzzle Claimed Solved by Special Relativity - Technology Review

Seems there were a lot of variables that needed to be taken into account long before making any preliminary announcement to the media, I read a great number of issues (the GPS being one of them). Not read the article yet, so I don't know if they corrected for them all yet (however, have it printed so shall give it a read later on).

[JehuJava]

Originally Posted by MJ5150

You guys talking about those giant rats all over New Orleans and the Bayou?

-Mike

Hahahahaha

[threshar]

Don't get too excited yet - the second test got the same results as the first, but for something as monumental as this it will take multiple labs numerous tests to confirm or deny.

there's a lot of Very Smart People(tm) thinking about it.

but still pretty slick nonetheless that we can actually *do* stuff like that. YAY SCIENCE!

[MatticusMania]

Originally Posted by mrpackerguy

So does this eman the laws of physics are wrong?

Not wrong, just not complete.

Also, I fully believe the laws of physics can be broken. We've already bested gravity!

[ThingsAbove]

Cables made of neutrinos make your bass sound better, but you have to play behind the beat.

[IconBasser]

Originally Posted by ThingsAbove

Cables made of neutrinos make your bass sound better, but you have to play behind the beat.

heh heh, very clever.

[nick g.]

Originally Posted by MatticusMania

Not wrong, just not complete.

Also, I fully believe the laws of physics can be broken. We've already bested gravity!

How?

[MatticusMania]

Look to the sky, my man! There be flying machines up there!