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09-11-2010, 09:47 AM
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Never forget what happened nine years ago today on September 11th. To all of the emergency workers and families that lost their lives you will never be forgotten. And to all of the terrorist that did this to us, I hope you burn in hell for eternity you bastards. | 
09-11-2010, 10:01 AM
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09-11-2010, 10:47 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Florida | | | It's kinda hard to forget about what happened when there have been shows about the attack continually aired on tv/cable stations.
I do think we need to remember what happened while still moving on. The moving on part is something I still don't think this country has quite done yet. The media likes to keep it in your face, hence all the shows that have been aired about it at least once a week over the last 9 years.
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09-11-2010, 10:49 AM
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I was a young kid back then and even though I'm not from US (I'm from Israel) I was shocked when I watched it on TV, I was only 6 years old, I feel the pain of 9/11 and understand it, we had a lot of suicide bombings here in Israel few years ago, some of them were approximately 100 meters away from where I live.
Terrorists should be killed, an eye for an eye, never forget and never forgive.
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09-11-2010, 10:54 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Central Alabama | | | Can't move on. That footage of those souls that made the decision to jump and die rather than die inside is horrible. I cry when I see that. I can't imagine not having any hope whatsoever. Today is a reminder that people want us to die. | 
09-11-2010, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Stinsok Can't move on. That footage of those souls that made the decision to jump and die rather than die inside is horrible. I cry when I see that. I can't imagine not having any hope whatsoever. Today is a reminder that people want us to die. | And that reason right there is why remembering what happened should piss us off rather than be sad about it. It should fuel our resolve to exterminate groups like these as best we can.
I've had lots of people on my facebook saying how today is a sad day. Today is not a sad day. What happened 9 years ago today was a sad day. It's a sad day in American history, but no reason for me to be sad today just because today is Sept 11th and we were attacked 9 years ago. Just sayin and not trying to start a flame war.
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09-11-2010, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by i_got_a_mohawk Doesn't seem like 9 years ago, I still remember that day like yesterday. | +1
i don't think i could forget if i tried. at the time i had all my recording gear moved up from the control room to the living room of my house, with a 48 channel board infront of my tv (was doing more recording than tv-watching at the time anyway, so it didn't matter). my wife called me and told me something was going on, so i ran into the living room and was standing in front of the tv between the mixing board and the screen, watching as everything was happening.
it was awful.
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09-11-2010, 12:42 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2009 Location: Houston, TX | | | I agree that we should honor and memorialize the victims of the attacks, but all this "burn in hell for eternity," "terrorists should be killed, eye for and eye," and "people want us to die" stuff just perpetuates the mindset that the terrorists were supporting in the first place. Violence begets only more violence, and no amount of revenge will ever make what happened okay. I'm no christian, I'm not religious in any way, but I do believe that Jesus had it right in a lot of ways, and that he would condemn violent rhetoric even against the very people who tortured and killed him.
Forgiveness is the foundation of grace, people.
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09-11-2010, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by billiam5billion I agree that we should honor and memorialize the victims of the attacks, but all this "burn in hell for eternity," "terrorists should be killed, eye for and eye," and "people want us to die" stuff just perpetuates the mindset that the terrorists were supporting in the first place. Violence begets only more violence, and no amount of revenge will ever make what happened okay. I'm no christian, I'm not religious in any way, but I do believe that Jesus had it right in a lot of ways, and that he would condemn violent rhetoric even against the very people who tortured and killed him.
Forgiveness is the foundation of grace, people. | +1
I hope that's OK....
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09-11-2010, 05:02 PM
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"Casualties of the September 11 attacks included a total of 2,977 fatalities (excluding the 19 terrorist hijackers): 246 on the four planes (from which there were no survivors), 2,606 in New York City in the towers and on the ground, and 125 at the Pentagon. All of the fatalities in the attacks were civilians except for 55 military personnel killed at the Pentagon. More than 90 countries lost citizens in the attacks on the World Trade Center. In 2007, the New York City medical examiner's office added Felicia Dunn-Jones to the official death toll from the September 11 attacks. Dunn-Jones died five months after 9/11 from a lung condition which was linked to exposure to dust during the collapse of the World Trade Center..." Non-American casualties
"Aside from the approximately 2,669 United States casualties, 310 foreign nationals (excluding the nineteen perpetrators) also perished in the attacks, i.e. just over 10% of the total number of deaths. The following is a list of their nationalities (not accounting for at least some cases of dual-citizenship). By far the foreign country with the largest loss of life was the United Kingdom, with 67 deaths (including the overseas territory of Bermuda). India had 41, South Korea had 28 and Canada and Japan had 24 each. Colombia had seventeen and Jamaica, Mexico and the Philippines had sixteen each. Australia and Germany had eleven each, while Italy had ten..." Littlest victims largely overlooked
Untold story of the children slain by Sept. 11 terrorists
Posted: December 21, 2001
1:00 am Eastern
By Diana Lynne
© 2010 WorldNetDaily.com
"Too young to comprehend evil, the Pokemon fan, the Tweety Bird lover, and the toddler who believed Mickey Mouse is real were assassinated by terrorists on Sept. 11. Three months later, the story of the eight child victims remains largely untold. Ranging in age from 2 to 11, they climbed aboard two thundering jetliners high on life, as only innocent children can be. Their last moments were filled with ghastly horror.
A survivor of the World Trade Center attacks who descibed to WorldNetDaily the terror he witnessed spoke of seeing "aircraft seat parts, shoes and even a little doll" raining down from the sky. The image of the doll is a lasting reminder of the hijackers' littlest victims largely overlooked.
A search of archives of published reports more often brings up articles about the Afghan war's "innocent victims" than articles about the children "among the first to give their lives in this war on terrorism," as Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff characterizes.
Every one of the eight child victims of the Sept. 11 terror attacks was, as President Bush described it earlier this month, "the most important person on Earth to somebody." The latest Associated Press Sept. 11 victims' list names the following": - Christine Lee Hanson, 2, Groton, Mass.
- David Brandhorst, 3, Los Angeles, Calif.
- Juliana McCourt, 4, New London, Conn.
- Bernard Brown II, 11, Washington, D.C.
- Asia Cottom, 11, Washington, D.C.
- Rodney Dickens, 11, Washington, D.C.
- Dana Falkenberg, 3, University Park, Md.
- Zoe Falkenberg, 8, University Park, Md.
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-------- 9/11: The children who lost their parents
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09-11-2010, 06:18 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Florida | | | Being from NY, many of my good friends lost family and best friends that day. I knew three guys, but they weren't close. It still bums me out. The hole in the skyline bums me out as well. NYC doesn't look like NYC.
Two more points:
-I don't think "the media keeps it in our face" any more than the memory of Pearl Harbor.
-Forgiveness doesn't work with people that would like nothing more than to detonate a nuke/bio/chem wep in a Western city. I will never forget nor forgive. If Bin Laden and crew would ask for forgiveness after repenting.......well, that's another matter.
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09-11-2010, 08:16 PM
|  | That's the way uh huh uh huh I like it.. | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Robbinsville, NJ | | | That very morning I was talking on the phone to a friendly young lady who worked in one of the towers. The company she was with was having some technical problems with one of our products. We made some small talk and I told her I would look into things on our end and call her right back. I hung up the phone and maybe 15 mins later she was dead. That feeling really sucks.
I will NEVER forget that day for as long as I live. the memory is burned into my mind.
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Originally Posted by MIJ-VI | I can see the spotlights from my doorstep tonight, being only about 20 miles from Manhattan. Being so close to the city, I knew several people who were affected directly by losing a parent.
I remember it so clearly, I was sitting in high school band my freshman year, first period when the first tower was hit. A few students were called out of class but nobody thought much of it until the second tower was hit, and then I remember the tension in the school that day, everyone was on edge, and it was on every TV in the school against policy. We were all too close to the city, and almost everyone was affected, directly or not.
The girl I was dating at the time's father was supposed to be there that morning, but missed his train. To this day he considers himself the luckiest person alive.
Unfortunately, not many people can say the same.
RIP to all those that lost their lives on this day nine years ago.
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09-11-2010, 09:27 PM
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09-12-2010, 02:43 AM
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09-12-2010, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by billiam5billion I agree that we should honor and memorialize the victims of the attacks, but all this "burn in hell for eternity," "terrorists should be killed, eye for and eye," and "people want us to die" stuff just perpetuates the mindset that the terrorists were supporting in the first place. Violence begets only more violence, and no amount of revenge will ever make what happened okay. I'm no christian, I'm not religious in any way, but I do believe that Jesus had it right in a lot of ways, and that he would condemn violent rhetoric even against the very people who tortured and killed him.
Forgiveness is the foundation of grace, people. |
You couldn't be more right. Solving problems with violence only creates a circle of never-ending vendetta. Killing a terrorist creates another terrorist. It's simple, the terrorist was someones brother, father, cousin, sister or a close friend. His family and friends will grow hatred. Some of them might even start to hate the killers so much that they justify suicide-bombings and maybe even become terrorists themselves.
I'm an atheist and the following will surely tick some people off but it's my opinion and I'm not going to answer any of the upcoming flame posts but anyway. Like the late George Carlin (may he also rest in peace) said, "Religion has killed more people than any other cause".
I hope people will learn someday that violence isn't an answer and I hope that events like 9/11 will never happen again.
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09-12-2010, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by RestInPieces You couldn't be more right. Solving problems with violence only creates a circle of never-ending vendetta. Killing a terrorist creates another terrorist. It's simple, the terrorist was someones brother, father, cousin, sister or a close friend. His family and friends will grow hatred. Some of them might even start to hate the killers so much that they justify suicide-bombings and maybe even become terrorists themselves. | As they say, one mans terrorist is another mans revolutionary.
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09-12-2010, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by billiam5billion I agree that we should honor and memorialize the victims of the attacks, but all this "burn in hell for eternity," "terrorists should be killed, eye for and eye," and "people want us to die" stuff just perpetuates the mindset that the terrorists were supporting in the first place. Violence begets only more violence, and no amount of revenge will ever make what happened okay. I'm no christian, I'm not religious in any way, but I do believe that Jesus had it right in a lot of ways, and that he would condemn violent rhetoric even against the very people who tortured and killed him.
Forgiveness is the foundation of grace, people. | +1
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