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Old 11-11-2010, 04:28 AM
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We've had them for years.

As far as I can tell.. they do nothing. Teenagers I know take up smoking every day of the week, the fact that they are not supposed to just spurs them on.
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my mother was in singapore (i think.. it was southeast asia) and they print REALLY graphic pictures on their smokes. like tumors and people with body parts falling off. they REALLY dont want people to smoke.
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Nope, people are going to do what they want.
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In Canada those ads have to cover at least 51% of the packages, these are the Canadian ones.



My buddy saw the "cigarettes harm babies" one, and being a non-smoker he got a pack, smoked the whole this as fast as he could then kept the empty pack under his hat for like 2 months and became a heavy smoker haha.
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A little disturbing. It really ruins the majesty of cigarette packets too. They are thinking about putting them on alcohol too I believe.
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Old 11-11-2010, 05:59 AM
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It really ruins the majesty of cigarette packets too.
Well, yeah, I think that's the idea.


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Disturbing indeed but completely inefficient.
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Old 11-11-2010, 06:06 AM
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I would like to see some actual statitsics before I judge the effectiveness of this campaign, I suspect it might not work all that well, but if it works to keep even just a few from starting up smoking, it will be worth it. In my own case, seeing the consequences of smoking for my father, on a respirator 24/7 and eventually dying from COPD caused by smoking, was just the impetus I needed to quit my 3 pack a day habit. I am sure it won't work for some, us smokers can be quite hard headed, but there are those who, after seeing these pictures constantly, everyday, will eventually lose the desire.
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Old 11-11-2010, 07:42 AM
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I think unless you live under a bridge that these things are already obvious. It would be great if the advertisements worked, but I doubt it.
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It's flat out stupid if you ask me, but hey, HOORAY GUBMINT!

edit: I picked up a special edition American Spirit tin that is pretty much an oversized tin cigarette box, so I won't have to look at those adds!
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It's flat out stupid if you ask me, but hey, HOORAY GUBMINT!
there's nothing wrong with the government looking out for the well-being of it's citizens by making consumers aware of the effects of a product. In fact, It's a good thing that consumers know about the facts of the things they're buying. It's when the government dictates what can and cannot be consumed that there's a problem.


as for the ads, I think they'll probably work a good deal better than the warning labels they have now. When I smoked, it was quite easy to ignore the warning labels and force myself not to think about the consequences. I think it would have been alot harder for me if there was a picture of somebody falling apart on my pack of smokes. Luckily though, I've already quit (thanks again James )
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I've often wondered whether the real purpose of these mandatory requirements is not to warn people of the dangers of smoking, but to make it more expensive for the producers to deliver the product to the market. The more prohibitive / cost ineffective you make the product to produce, deliver and sell, the higher the cost of the product to the consumer. In a item like cigarettes cost is probably a huge factor in purchasing decision and availability (especially if you look at the demographics of smokers). Basically, its a backdoor way of increase the cost of the product and its the cost of the product that is used as the "stop smoking" device rather than the warning itself. I imagine that same point probably runs true about the ban on advertising. Make the product less visible and the cost of the product increases as the sales figures drop. Cost goes up, purchasers go down.
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I've often wondered whether the real purpose of these mandatory requirements is not to warn people of the dangers of smoking, but to make it more expensive for the producers to deliver the product to the market. The more prohibitive / cost ineffective you make the product to produce, deliver and sell, the higher the cost of the product to the consumer. In a item like cigarettes cost is probably a huge factor in purchasing decision and availability (especially if you look at the demographics of smokers). Basically, its a backdoor way of increase the cost of the product and its the cost of the product that is used as the "stop smoking" device rather than the warning itself. I imagine that same point probably runs true about the ban on advertising. Make the product less visible and the cost of the product increases as the sales figures drop. Cost goes up, purchasers go down.
except that governments already directly implement taxes on cigarettes, so there's no need to be all sneaky about it. Everybody already knows that the price is manipulated.
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Smoking is becoming a burden to the National Health Service here too, I think it's a little 'you have been warned' message, price will not really affect a smokers decision whether to buy, averages take that as a given, more addictive than Heroin.

The ad's on the packs won't really work though I feel, the truth hurt's.
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except that governments already directly implement taxes on cigarettes, so there's no need to be all sneaky about it. Everybody already knows that the price is manipulated.
Increasing tax on cigarettes is still unpopular. Its much easier to manipulate pricing in a variety of ways.
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It's flat out stupid if you ask me, but hey, HOORAY GUBMINT!
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