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Old 01-14-2013, 05:42 PM
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SF fans are NOT split on who should be the QB. Kaepernick has clearly demonstrated that he adds new dimensions (QB runs, the deep ball) that Smith didn't.

What many SF fans (myself included) were bothered by is HOW the switch happened. Alex Smith basically lost his job because he got a concussion which seems unfair.
It is unfair, but that's life, same as the Bledsoe/Brady deal mentioned above, and to a much lesser extent, Matt Flynn & Russell Wilson. Flynn being brought in to be starter(iirc) and loosing out to a rookie draft.

I wonder though, Smith and Flynn are both very good QB's, surely some teams will try and work a deal for them, there are plenty of teams the could do with better QB's.

Another slant that could be taken though is, Brady and Kaepernick stepped up, took their opportunity and ran with it. Would it be fair for them to go back to the bench after proving themselves the better players in their position?
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Old 01-14-2013, 06:14 PM
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I think when you factor in wins/losses and the playoff win, it's closer than that.
Just to clarify, I was talking about Andrew Luck, not Russell Wilson. I think he was over hyped and over rated this year. I am highly impressed with Russell Wilson, if I had my way there would be co-rookies of the year Wilson and RG3
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I can't pull for the Patsies. I know they're a great team but I don't like the coach and I haven't forgiven Tom Brady (an absolute first ballot hall of famer) for replacing Drew Bledsoe.
Then your gripe is with Belichick, not Brady. All he did was succeed; Belichick made the decision. The correct decision, by the way.
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It is unfair, but that's life, same as the Bledsoe/Brady deal mentioned above, and to a much lesser extent, Matt Flynn & Russell Wilson. Flynn being brought in to be starter(iirc) and loosing out to a rookie draft.

I wonder though, Smith and Flynn are both very good QB's, surely some teams will try and work a deal for them, there are plenty of teams the could do with better QB's.

Another slant that could be taken though is, Brady and Kaepernick stepped up, took their opportunity and ran with it. Would it be fair for them to go back to the bench after proving themselves the better players in their position?
There's no question in my mind that Smith is starting somewhere next season. I mean, the guy was the 3rd-ranked passer in the NFL when he got injured and replaced.
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Then your gripe is with Belichick, not Brady. All he did was succeed; Belichick made the decision. The correct decision, by the way.

If he were on your team, you'd love him.
His play on the field? Of course. Most everything else would make me cringe.
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Is RGIII the name of a new porcelain company? 'Cause that guy is fragile as hell.
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Is RGIII the name of a new porcelain company? 'Cause that guy is fragile as hell.
Adrian Peterson tore his ACL and MCL, is he fragile?
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Adrian Peterson tore his ACL and MCL, is he fragile?
He managed to stay in for more than 2 consecutive games this year without getting injured...so I'd say, no.
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Man, I just don't see anybody in the AFC going into Denver and winning. Wait...

I can officially now enjoy the rest of the playoffs.
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:28 AM
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Please no. Two weeks of "Harbaugh Bowl" or even worse "Harbowl" talk and I'll lose it.
LOL....yeah that aspect of it I do not want to see. But I'd like to see Ray-Ray back in it and for Ed Reed to finally get a championship under his belt
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I am highly impressed with Russell Wilson, if I had my way there would be co-rookies of the year Wilson and RG3
My sentiments as well.
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:52 AM
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He managed to stay in for more than 2 consecutive games this year without getting injured...so I'd say, yes.
His knee was more damaged than he let on. He should have never been playing on it in the first place.
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LOL....yeah that aspect of it I do not want to see. But I'd like to see Ray-Ray back in it and for Ed Reed to finally get a championship under his belt
If I didn't believe that it would be impossible to craft an NFL storyline conspiracy, I would advocate the yearly belief that the NFL tries to steer these into place in order to drum up publicity. The Tebow nonsense last year was as close as I got to believing the NFL crafts storylines. After I saw Marion Barber literally throw a ball out into Broncos players, I got a weird feeling.
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Old 01-15-2013, 01:28 PM
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SF fans are NOT split on who should be the QB. Kaepernick has clearly demonstrated that he adds new dimensions (QB runs, the deep ball) that Smith didn't.

What many SF fans (myself included) were bothered by is HOW the switch happened. Alex Smith basically lost his job because he got a concussion which seems unfair.
sorry, Jared, but "NOT" is definitely the wrong word! i listen to "Gary & Larry" on KNBR almost every day and this debate continues. even today it was "who would you prefer", Luck or CK, Wilson or CK, SMITH or CK!

IMHO, CK is light-years ahead of Smith and the majority of fans agree. the haters have been exposed for being what they are. there should NOT even be a debate.

poor Gary had to ask why the other morning. callers speculated that it was CK's tattoo's, his goatee, and even his heritage!!! people in the Bay need a life! the Niner's are killing it and fan's need to just enjoy their new super weapon.
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sorry, Jared, but "NOT" is definitely the wrong word! i listen to "Gary & Larry" on KNBR almost every day and this debate continues. even today it was "who would you prefer", Luck or CK, Wilson or CK, SMITH or CK!

IMHO, CK is light-years ahead of Smith and the majority of fans agree. the haters have been exposed for being what they are. there should NOT even be a debate.

poor Gary had to ask why the other morning. callers speculated that it was CK's tattoo's, his goatee, and even his heritage!!! people in the Bay need a life! the Niner's are killing it and fan's need to just enjoy their new super weapon.
Well, among sports talk callers maybe. But that's hardly a good representation of educated fans.

While I'm someone that listens to sportstalk semi-regularly, I don't call in. And I think that's true of most people, especially better informed fans who just roll their eyes at what actually comes out of the mouths of people who do take time to get on the air.

I think the only question fans had about Kaepernick going into the playoffs was that he wasn't battle tested under postseason pressure. Smith earned a lot of points with his gutsy win against New Orleans last year. I like Alex Smith. He's tough, he's a hard worker and he's been put through the wringer countless times and still been nothing but a class act about it all. But Kaep has physical gifts that Smith never will.
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^^^ Jared,... excellent point about some callers!

like Gary said on Monday, "it makes for good radio"! lol
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We get the same this side of the pond, in regards to soccer, it's all the raving lunatics and agenda fans that ring in. Love a bit of a laugh on the radio.

Sometimes on the NFL shows we get sulking fans texting in which can be entertaining, usually disgruntled Jets fans, who then get tore to shreds. Good times.
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Old 01-15-2013, 03:24 PM
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Die-hard, long-time, non-bandwagon Seahawks fan here.

While I admire the spunk of the offense in coming back from 20 down, and while I'm appreciative that the defense got their act together for most of the second half, I have a pretty tough judgment to level against the team:

If your defense can't hold the other team from advancing the ball far enough in 23 seconds to kick a non-heroic field goal, you deserve to lose.
It was a punch in the gut, and still stings.

To be fair though... Seattle is the 2nd youngest team in the league, being run by a rookie Quarterback. Couple that with two back to back East Coast Playoff road games, losing their best pass rusher (Having already lost to Jason Jones as well), and Marshawn looking like he was a little more hurt then we thought... It was a good showing. Not great, but good and it was a tall order for any team.

Atlanta had an epic collapse, but it was just too little, too late. It is sooooooooo difficult to get to the playoffs. It's cloudy now, the Seattle Seahawks future looks bright.
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