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09-26-2011, 10:03 PM
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09-26-2011, 10:05 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: northeast Ohio | | | Jeez, sorry you ended up in prison and don't have all the rights law abiding citizens have!
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09-26-2011, 10:20 PM
|  | Online | | Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sunapee, New Hampshire | | | While I think the lawsuit is foolish, I am going to check out the book. Thanks for the link Dr. Cheese.
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09-26-2011, 11:23 PM
|  | Registered User | | | | | "...Mr. Melvin never received the book. According to his lawsuit, he was told by an official at Kilby that the book was “too incendiary” and “too provocative,”
Translation: 'too true' (and on-going in a different form) |
09-27-2011, 04:19 AM
|  | Gettin' medieval on yo' bass... | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: new hampshire | | | At first, as an advocate of absolute freedom of the press, I was taken aback by this. My wife is a librarian and has to stand up for the first amendment from time to time when patrons object to the library carrying this or that book.
On the other hand, prison is different. Prisoners have lost their right to liberty by due process of law, as the Constitution calls for, and cannot invoke first amendment rights the same way. I haven't read the book, which is apparently about the Jim Crow south, but I can imagine that even the title circulating in a prison setting could cause problems. If I were the prison warden, I would err on the side of caution and let him read it when he gets out.
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09-27-2011, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by MIJ-VI “too incendiary” and “too provocative,”
Translation: 'too true' (and on-going in a different form) | Yep
The book is apparently about exploitation of prison labor within the Alabama prison system. The warden of an Alabama prison bans the book inside his prison. A prison that just happens to contract out convict labor in pretty much the same way as extensively cited in the book
What a surprise....
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09-27-2011, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by runmikeyrun Jeez, sorry you ended up in prison and don't have all the rights law abiding citizens have! | He messed up when he was 14. He has been in jail since (with a good behavior record) and is now 33. Let the man have his books.
OTOH, I can see why the warden would have a problem with that particular book but banning it just looks bad.
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09-27-2011, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by AnchorHoy
Yep
The book is apparently about exploitation of prison labor within the Alabama prison system. The warden of an Alabama prison bans the book inside his prison. A prison that just happens to contract out convict labor in pretty much the same way as extensively cited in the book
What a surprise....
| Those poor convicts; made to work when they should be sitting under the AC reading whatever book they choose.
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09-27-2011, 07:23 AM
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09-27-2011, 07:39 AM
|  | I play the electric tuba. | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cleveland | | | I'm gonna go with the "tough toenails" group here. I think they should only be allowed self-help books in prison. Nothing but Dr. Phil or Deeprak Chopra.
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09-27-2011, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Kawai-chang I'm gonna go with the "tough toenails" group here. I think they should only be allowed self-help books in prison. Nothing but Dr. Phil or Deeprak Chopra. | Cruel and unusual punishment.
I like it!
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09-27-2011, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by carl h. Cruel and unusual punishment.
I like it! | Well, I'm all about "rehabilitation." 
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09-27-2011, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Kawai-chang Nothing but Dr. Phil or Deeprak Chopra. | Im going to go see Deepak Chopra speak at my inlaws church some coming Tuesday (but only because theyre taking the wife and I out to dinner afterwards, shhhh!).
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09-27-2011, 11:36 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Haddon Heights, NJ | | | Although there are racial issues contained in the text, the issue is whether the convict should be able to read a given text or not.
The convict was set to be released in 2008, but was sent back to prison on a "technical violation" (according his lawyer). Since then, he has been reading books. He realizes that being prohibited to read a given text is an ample opportunity to get back at the judicial system for returning him to prison on a "technical violation".
If this had occurred in 2004, prior to him being released for "good behavior", he probably would have said "Meh, I'll take the next one on the list". Similarly, if he had been denied "Advanced Engineering Mathematics" (for whatever reason), he probably would sue also.
Reading through the double-speak....
What kind of "technical violation" cannot be cleaned up within 3 years? Why does he have to have **this** book rather than thousands of others? Could he not just wait a little bit, get out of prison and then read whatever he wanted? Methinks the "technical violation" was a little more serious than described, and the attorney is trying to save his reputation from representing an idiot. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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