North American Union....

PersonalTraynor · #1 05-13-2011, 11:43 PM

Think it will really happen?

Or is this just more conspiracy theory garbage.?

I've been interested in this for years, but so far, no proof.

To tell you the truth, I think it might be good for us.

(In case you have no idea what I'm talking aboot click the link below...)

YouTube - NO NAU / North American Union

IconBasser · #2 05-14-2011, 01:59 AM

I finally threw in the towel and dismissed it as ridiculous when it said "Open borders and free trade have led to widespread wage stagnation and job losses", which is exactly what the laws of Microeconomics say wouldn't happen.

GregC · #3 05-14-2011, 02:13 AM

The John Birch Society is still around? I saw their name as the uploader and immediately closed the window, lol.

P.S. Remember a couple years ago, when conspiracists were claiming that the Amero was going to replace the dollar annnyyyyy day now?

Musiclogic · #4 05-14-2011, 02:20 AM

NAFTA, CAFTA....heard of them? The Nafta Highway from Michigan and Minnesota to Laredo TX? They have been building it for years. It's not a joke, but it is something that is continually in the works. I guess if you don't travel much to see the work that's being done on it, or participate in actual business to understand what Nafta does, it's harder to get a grasp on. I don't think it will happen in my years left on earth, but I bet it will come to fruition by 2035.

The biggest thing that can stop it is the present distress and monetary unraveling of the EU that is happening as we speak. If the EU completely folds under all the collapsing economies then the NAU will never come to be.

Lady Kayri · #5 05-14-2011, 08:43 AM

I don't really see this happening. For example, I really doubt that Canada or Mexico would really like to join that closely with the US; I suspect they'd be afraid of losing their own identities to the 800 pound gorilla in the Union. There may be more trade agreements and what not, but I can't see there ever being a 'North American Union' like the European Union.

rr5025 · #6 05-14-2011, 09:39 AM

I don't see the issue, I don't think it would be that much of a bad thing. Hell maybe it would even lead to some high speed rail systems, which in my opinion we need pretty desperately.

Unrepresented · #7 05-14-2011, 10:35 AM

Conspiracy theorist garbage. NAFTA is largely hated today, why would they go a step further?

duff beer · #8 05-14-2011, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by rr5025

I don't see the issue, I don't think it would be that much of a bad thing. Hell maybe it would even lead to some high speed rail systems, which in my opinion we need pretty desperately.

Not a bad thing for who??

Here in Canada, we avoided the mortgage meltdown and did much better during the recession. Our economy is stronger and we don't have the debt load the US does.

We are happy being trading partners with the US, but we want no part of their fiscal irresponsibility.

EBodious · #9 05-14-2011, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by GregC

The John Birch Society is still around? I saw their name as the uploader and immediately closed the window, lol.

P.S. Remember a couple years ago, when conspiracists were claiming that the Amero was going to replace the dollar annnyyyyy day now?

JBS is definitely still out there. we had a couple guys here in town (jim and jim) who held meetings at the library. i went for over a year (interesting debates, they are against foreign wars so we could get together on some things). eventually, one of the jims started a relationship with a woman who was a bible literalist and suddenly the meetings took on a strong fundamentalist christian perspective and i lost interest.

ftr, the modern JBS is trying to separate itself from the 1950's JBS. OTOH, both jims, while decrying big government, worked for the gov (post office and DOT). those were good times.

GregC · #10 05-14-2011, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Lady Kayri

I don't really see this happening. For example, I really doubt that Canada or Mexico would really like to join that closely with the US; I suspect they'd be afraid of losing their own identities to the 800 pound gorilla in the Union. There may be more trade agreements and what not, but I can't see there ever being a 'North American Union' like the European Union.

Agreed. The formation of the EU was more feasible because there isn't a single economy that absolutely dwarfs the others, as would be the case with an NAU.

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Originally Posted by EBodious

JBS is definitely still out there. we had a couple guys here in town (jim and jim) who held meetings at the library. i went for over a year (interesting debates, they are against foreign wars so we could get together on some things). eventually, one of the jims started a relationship with a woman who was a bible literalist and suddenly the meetings took on a strong fundamentalist christian perspective and i lost interest.

ftr, the modern JBS is trying to separate itself from the 1950's JBS. OTOH, both jims, while decrying big government, worked for the gov (post office and DOT). those were good times.

Thanks, I admit I had no idea they'd changed their stripes somewhat. That's interesting.

iamlowsound · #11 05-14-2011, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by duff beer

Not a bad thing for who??

Here in Canada, we avoided the mortgage meltdown and did much better during the recession. Our economy is stronger and we don't have the debt load the US does.

We are happy being trading partners with the US, but we want no part of their fiscal irresponsibility.

This. It would not be to Canada's advantage to join up that closely with the US.

lowsound