Oil is Renewable?

billjr · #1 12-07-2009, 08:18 PM

I read an article last week that stated oil being produced by "fossils" is not a worldwide belief. Russian and other scientists and oil explorers believe that intense heat and pressure deep within the mantle (40-60 miles) causes chemical reactions that produce oil and it seeps up through fissures into pools. New pools are created as well as currrent pools replenished. It did not go into how long a process this is, but it did say the russians credit their oil discoveries that give it larger deposits than Saudia Arabia to this idea.

I thought that was interesting, and I saw a show about a similar concept a few years ago.

Was wondering if there was anybody with some knowledge about oil that could shed some light about the origins of the worlds oil deposits.

NickInMesa · #2 12-07-2009, 08:25 PM

It's called the abiogenic origin theory.

It has not been discounted.

The thing is, burning oil the way we do is very efficient and polluting (not counting global warming, which I adhere to, personally -I can't believe so many people don't in the US, so big is the power of the lobbie$).

elgecko · #3 12-07-2009, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NickInMesa

The thing is, burning oil the way we do is very efficient and polluting

Que?

**jmattbassplaya** · #4 12-07-2009, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by billjr

I read an article last week that stated oil being produced by "fossils" is not a worldwide belief. Russian and other scientists and oil explorers believe that intense heat and pressure deep within the mantle (40-60 miles) causes chemical reactions that produce oil and it seeps up through fissures into pools. New pools are created as well as currrent pools replenished. It did not go into how long a process this is, but it did say the russians credit their oil discoveries that give it larger deposits than Saudia Arabia to this idea.

I thought that was interesting, and I saw a show about a similar concept a few years ago.

Was wondering if there was anybody with some knowledge about oil that could shed some light about the origins of the worlds oil deposits.

Key word - RUSSIANS!

In Soviet Russia, oil burns you!

WalterBush · #5 12-07-2009, 09:28 PM

I heard a while back about a geologist who believed it was the hydrodynamics of the ocean and the continental shelves of the world that produced oil, and that he could predict where oil would be as a result;

Apparently, he found oil somewhere near the Black Sea where he said he would, and now works for Exxon.

I don't remember the details, and haven't heard anymore about it since. Maybe there's other reasons Exxon had such a few great years recently...

It'd be nice to find out that oil was renewable. It'd also be ironic to discover that it was renewable right when we're on the cusp of ditching it in favor of other technologies.

Thunderscreech · #6 12-07-2009, 09:29 PM

Oil is made from Human Souls that are tortured in the fires of hell and then expelled to the surface in the form a black sticky liquid. burning oil will free them.

TOOL460002 · #7 12-07-2009, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jmattbassplaya

Key word - RUSSIANS!

In Soviet Russia, oil burns you!

i dont think the "in soviet russia....etc..." will ever, EVER get old.

that said, im off to see if i can find out more on this topic, as its pretty interesting.

Thunderscreech · #8 12-07-2009, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TOOL460002

i dont think the "in soviet russia....etc..." will ever, EVER get old.

that said, im off to see if i can find out more on this topic, as its pretty interesting.

In soviet russia, Old gets YOU comrade!

guitfiddle0409 · #9 12-07-2009, 09:38 PM

My trash is fossil fuel for a future race!

crimson_basser · #10 12-07-2009, 10:03 PM

If this turns out to be true, it would make me laugh.

McHaven · #11 12-07-2009, 10:22 PM

While it hasn't been proven or not, its very unlikely that oil pockets are replenishing/emerging at the rate we are pumping it out. We'll never get close to the mantle to even be able to test this anyway.

UnsungZeros · #12 12-08-2009, 12:40 AM

^ Came here to say that.

NickInMesa · #13 12-08-2009, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by elgecko

Que?

Yeah, I mean INefficient and polluting.

FreaqyFrequency · #14 12-08-2009, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by NickInMesa

I can't believe so many people don't in the US, so big is the power of the lobbie$.

I'm not sure what you're saying here, but lobbyists do not influence my opinion on an issue. There is not enough evidence that has been presented to me that global warming is a real event and that we are the cause, and there is too much evidence to the contrary for me to accept it.

And, if anything, a majority of this country does believe Global Warming is occurring. Our President's plans now include acting on it.

southernrocker · #15 12-08-2009, 11:06 AM

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While it hasn't been proven or not, its very unlikely that oil pockets are replenishing/emerging at the rate we are pumping it out. We'll never get close to the mantle to even be able to test this anyway.

I think that oil does renew, but like said above, not as fast as we use it. Isn't oil basically an anceint compost pile under a ton of pressure, so it turns into oil? Correct me if I'm wrong.
So, every day more old trash get older, and gets under more pressure. I'm not the best with words, but you get the idea.

southernrocker · #16 12-08-2009, 11:09 AM

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I'm not sure what you're saying here, but lobbyists do not influence my opinion on an issue. There is not enough evidence that has been presented to me that global warming is a real event and that we are the cause, and there is too much evidence to the contrary for me to accept it.

And, if anything, a majority of this country does believe Global Warming is occurring. Our President's plans now include acting on it.

I'm a skeptic as well, especially after this "climategate" scandal got loose. Spending trillions on a theory that hasn't been proven is a bad idea.

RWP · #17 12-08-2009, 11:09 AM

Doesn't matter, soon no one will be able to afford to burn any.

FreaqyFrequency · #18 12-08-2009, 11:11 AM

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Spending trillions on a theory that hasn't been proven is a bad idea.

Maybe adding a + thirteen trillion approval to this statement will mitigate our thirteen trillion dollar debt.

standupright · #19 12-08-2009, 11:11 AM

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Yeah, I mean INefficient and polluting.

burn oil? you mean as in for heating?

FreaqyFrequency · #20 12-08-2009, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RWP

Doesn't matter, soon no one will be able to afford to burn any.

The price of oil, as with everything, is varied by four things: supply, demand, manipulation by those in control of it, and the value of the buying currency. I would say the latter is the one we have to worry most about at present.