Opinions. Can they be wrong?

[cassanova]

Just like the title asks. Do you think that opinions can sometimes be wrong?

[Jim Nazium]

No, but that's just my opinion.

[Unrepresented]

Originally Posted by cassanova

Just like the title asks. Do you think that opinions can sometimes be wrong?

In my opinion, they're always wrong.

[RosieB]

(that was weird)

[RosieB]

They're only wrong if they're not the same as my opinion. :-)

[cjmodulus]

Wow, 4 responses and they're all funny. Nice.

[stratovani]

In my opinion all black men can dance and they all play basketball. Am I right or am I wrong?


Guess that answers your question!

[Jimbob Jones]

Yeah, I think that green and blue are the same, and orange doesn't exist. I'm right, right?

[cjmodulus]

Originally Posted by Jimbob Jones

Yeah, I think that green and blue are the same, and orange doesn't exist. I'm right, right?

IMO, not even close.

[cassanova]

I'll provide a little more background as to why I posted this. Someone said to us, "its my opinion that addiction is not a real disease, because it is self-inflicted." That got most of us telling her the facts about about addiction. One of us, told her "well, I'm sorry, but you're opinion is actually wrong." She, and a couple of others, didn't like that much and said we're wrong. So now in the interest of pseudoscience, I thought, I'd come here and get some outside, unbiased opinions.

[Jimbob Jones]

Well, you have horns and a tail. IMHO, of course.

[Eugene Festus]

I think that opinions need to be based on something. Like, facts or ideals perhaps. For me its not whether the opinion is right or wrong it's whether it's thought-out and credible or simply BS backed by nothing. Opinions shouldn't contradict known facts, but IMO go along side with facts.

[MakiSupaStar]

Yay! Another Fassanova thread, where it's a thread that is a thinly veiled attempt at a real topic, but is actually the relocation of a former pissing match from another thread. This is just my opinion, of course.

[Phalex]

As a married man, I am no longer entitled to have an opinion. I vote marzipan.

[MakiSupaStar]

Originally Posted by Phalex

As a married man, I am no longer entitled to have an opinion. I vote marzipan.

That's a legit opinion right there.

[Papa Dangerous]

Opinions can be right or wrong because they are not facts or false statements.

An opinion is usually based on someone's point of view (some cases it is based on someone else's point without proper understanding of something - thus this item becomes slightly jaded and less valuable as an opinion. But it happens both ways - in favor or and against, so it balances out.)

It is important to understand the direction that a person is coming from, which usually gives reason as to why they have that opinion.

For your case, a person who says that addiction is not a disease can be someone who is all about being against anything and everything, or possibly someone who lost someone who was addicted to something and they believed it was entirely the person fault they may have died.

A person who says it is a disease might believe in the notion that people have addictive personalities. That it is not just applicable to substance use, but with their overall and general attitude towards things. Sometimes a person becomes so involved with a trend, say being punk, that the style, the attitude, the music, everything about it speaks to them. They then fall into the category. After that, they find interest in some country music, perhaps some Hank Williams 2nd and being a rebel. They now have this CowPunk style going on. I am not saying they are posers or wannabes, especially if they really do understand what they are getting involved with and into. (At least this is one way I understood how an addictive personality can operate, not to say it is the only - they essentially become addicted to the idea of portraying their self in a certain manner). These people can also become addicted to food, exercise, gambling etc.

So back on track... opinions are just notions and beliefs based on a person's personal point of view. I am sure we can all agree (in my opinion at least...) that there are major groups of people that are complete whack jobs (politicians, religions, guitar players )
and there are awesome groups of people out (bassists and TB'ers). All these people are part of a similar community and may share certain opinions and different at the same time.

So, yes... opinions can be wrong, but what is wrong is subjective.

"If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing."
-Anatole France (1844 - 1924)

[john grey]

Originally Posted by MakiSupaStar

Yay! Another Fassanova thread, where it's a thread that is a thinly veiled attempt at a real topic, but is actually the relocation of a former pissing match from another thread. This is just my opinion, of course.

HA, HA! Wow.

So what's the real-deal? "Addiction"?

The "Disease Concept" was a 1980's phenomenon the blossomed during the Treatment Industry's attempt to milk insurance companies for 21-28 day in-patient stays and to pull the reaction formation from the patient when sober and enormous guilt would set in over past activities. The "disease" would provide a wonderful opportunity for the patient/client to disassociate themselves from active guilt (and thus stay in Treatment) while also providing a convenient method for the Treatment Industry to bill insurance under medical clauses.
Eventually independent clinicians stepped in and started sorting the BS from the ice cream. The facts were that it really didn't even matter if "addiction was a disease" - other than for billing purposes. The pseudo diagnosis of "sexual addition" and "co-dependency" were isolated from any peer-reviewed material & never entered into the Diagnostics and Statistics Manual of the APA.
When the 1980's "Treatment Industry" hay-day was over....so was the interest in making those "diagnosis" stick; other than for attempts at insurance billing, which continued to fail miserably. State and Federal financial issues fell by the way-side when the fed said that addiction would no longer qualify an individual for Social Security Disability money.

So in my opinion the whole issue of addiction as a disease is a transparent agenda; as it makes little difference to the outcome of the milieu of lifestyle both before and after any "treatment".

[duff beer]

Opinions are like arseholes...everyone has one, and most of them stink.

[Relic]

I read the thread title as "Onions, can they be wrong"
And no, onions cannot be wrong. And they're ever so are so awesome on a hoagie/sub/gringer/hero's....chopped up, fried and mixed into scrambled eggs...oh yeah.

And if you don't like onions, screw you, you're wrong!

[Bloodhammer]

Opinions are a luxury for those audacious enough to impose them on others.