Parents with screaming kids...

Stanley Design · #1 10-20-2008, 09:27 PM

Seriously. Today on my way home from an 11 hour shift I climb into the bus to a 3-5 year old girl wailing at the top of her lungs while her mother just stood there ignoring it. After 15 minutes continuous, she hasn't said a single word the the kid or even looked at it. By then, the child decides to start kicking and hitting the mother, who still calmly ignores it. I enjoyed a 27 minute bus ride of hell before they got off at their stop and I heard her talking to the kid outside the bus.

What in the hell is WRONG with these people? You're snot-nosed parasitic monster is YOUR responsibility. I do not need to put up with that crap. There is a reason I do not have a child, I don't want one, so don't make me put up with yours. Control your child or get the hell off the bus until you can.

Do you really believe ignoring it makes it feel better? Instead of ignoring your child's problem, perhaps you should try and help them feel better? As much as I hate children, they are human beings and being as stupid as they are, they are even EASIER to deal with than adults. For God sake, if your child is wailing in public how about leaning down and asking it what is wrong, and how you can help fix it. Even if you can't, the child will have to stop crying to talk to you at least and you'll have a chance to say "I wont be able to do that, but maybe this will make you happy instead", rather than letting your monster annoy 60 people on a crowded bus at 6pm.

And people wonder why kids think they can get away with anything. At least if you beat the kid he wont annoy me and will think twice about making a scene in public the next time. I'd take that over ignoring it anyday.

/rant

MJ5150 · #2 10-20-2008, 09:36 PM

Some parents are really challenged when it comes to parenting skills. It frustrates me as well. Parenting is such a personal issue, and with so many people packing guns nowadays, I refrain from saying anything anymore.

-Mike

baalroo · #3 10-20-2008, 10:05 PM

So many horrible parents, and every parent thinks that their situation is unique and somehow it's not their fault that their little brat is a moron.

scorpionldr · #4 10-20-2008, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Todd Stanley

Seriously. Today on my way home from an 11 hour shift I climb into the bus to a 3-5 year old girl wailing at the top of her lungs while her mother just stood there ignoring it. After 15 minutes continuous, she hasn't said a single word the the kid or even looked at it. By then, the child decides to start kicking and hitting the mother, who still calmly ignores it. I enjoyed a 27 minute bus ride of hell before they got off at their stop and I heard her talking to the kid outside the bus.

What in the hell is WRONG with these people? You're snot-nosed parasitic monster is YOUR responsibility. I do not need to put up with that crap. There is a reason I do not have a child, I don't want one, so don't make me put up with yours. Control your child or get the hell off the bus until you can.

Do you really believe ignoring it makes it feel better? Instead of ignoring your child's problem, perhaps you should try and help them feel better? As much as I hate children, they are human beings and being as stupid as they are, they are even EASIER to deal with than adults. For God sake, if your child is wailing in public how about leaning down and asking it what is wrong, and how you can help fix it. Even if you can't, the child will have to stop crying to talk to you at least and you'll have a chance to say "I wont be able to do that, but maybe this will make you happy instead", rather than letting your monster annoy 60 people on a crowded bus at 6pm.

And people wonder why kids think they can get away with anything. At least if you beat the kid he wont annoy me and will think twice about making a scene in public the next time. I'd take that over ignoring it anyday.

/rant

Ah, the sounds of pain and anguish of enduring someone else's children......And now I have confirmation that I am not alone.....but what awaits? The certain outraged posts of "well it's hard!! it's real hard, boss!"

Munjibunga · #5 10-20-2008, 10:11 PM

That is why god created duct tape.

Benjamin Strange · #6 10-20-2008, 10:53 PM

If a kid is crying unnecessarily, I give him something to cry about.

kserg · #7 10-20-2008, 10:58 PM

Tell the parent to shut their kid up. Then the parent is crying and screaming louder then the kid and you just laugh at them. Which makes them even more mad but they are too old to have energy so they give up. When they give up, the kid is quite and confused.

If they don't give up, shut them up or knock em out and tell kid to learn his lesson about being an A/B/C/D words.

OtterOnBass · #8 10-20-2008, 11:36 PM

As a parent, that sounds awful. However, since we don't know her story, it's impossible to pass judgement. Maybe this is the day that she is standing up to her strong-willed child and not responding to her poor behavior.

bassteban · #9 10-20-2008, 11:48 PM

I've been *that parent*(not in Montreal, mind you

). There are times when a kid is going to melt, & doing anything(legal)will only make it worse. Keep in mind that parent has to go home w/that kid.

[Again]mind you the aforementioned parent may be entirely useless. But like TB disputes made 'public', no one but the offending family know the whole story. Also, to all those saying/thinking/posting 'what a loser parent', etc, remember your *kharma*. I've said many of those things myself, before having children, and somewhat regretted it.
[no appropo smilie;

+

comes close]

EricF · #10 10-20-2008, 11:58 PM

Dear Mr. Stanley:
Your limited tolerance of other people, and the challenges they may be dealing with at that moment, lead me to believe that your own abilities as a parent may be somewhat limited. You have made a wise life choice by electing not to procreate.

Respectfully,
EricF
Father of a 4-year-old daughter diagnosed with borderline bipolar disorder who exhibits behavior similar to what you've described, and knows that sometimes there's NOTHING that can be said or done to stop the child in the middle of a rage episode.

For kids wired like that, talking, yelling, scolding, spanking, begging, cuddling, threatening, bribing, and distracting will usually have zero effect on the situation, and often times will make it worse. If the child you witnessed is anything like mine, it was probably all the mother (maybe herself tired after a day at work) could do to contain herself and be patient until they were off the bus. What you saw as complacency might well have been calculated control.

I, myself, didn't understand this kind of behavior until I had a child like this of my own. Being her parent has been the biggest challenge of my life.

(P.S. Please take my opening statement in the half-sarcastic tone it was intended.

)

T-Bird · #11 10-21-2008, 01:15 AM

Hi.

Good point EricF.

Usually when I'm in a situation like that, all it takes is a stare. First with the kid and if that fails, with the adult who's with that kid. I've been told that I sometimes look rather scary (because of a stupid stereotype) even if I'm at ease and really, really scary when it's intentional or when I blow it. I have to admit to have used that to my advantage many times, I'm not proud of that, but it has saved people around me a lot of trouble.

Being a teacher occasionally, IME kids are cool as long as they're someone elses kids. And BEHAVE.

Regards
Sam

dave64o · #12 10-21-2008, 01:35 AM

Since having a child of my own I've learned that it's the people who have no kids of their own who are apparently the ones who know the most about parenting.

Toasted · #13 10-21-2008, 02:06 AM

As pretty much every parent knows, if your kid is acting up and you give it attention - it's going to act up more for more attention.

Ignoring the kid acting up is a good way to show it that this kind of behaviour won't be rewarded by parental attention.

So maybe this poor mum you're all lampooning was being a good mother?

I agree, on public transport that it can be annoying - that's why I have my own car, I ...uh, mean, noise excluding headphones for my MP3 player.

Bruce Lindfield · #14 10-21-2008, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EricF

Dear Mr. Stanley:
Your limited tolerance of other people, and the challenges they may be dealing with at that moment, lead me to believe that your own abilities as a parent may be somewhat limited. You have made a wise life choice by electing not to procreate.

Respectfully,
EricF
Father of a 4-year-old daughter diagnosed with borderline bipolar disorder who exhibits behavior similar to what you've described, and knows that sometimes there's NOTHING that can be said or done to stop the child in the middle of a rage episode.

For kids wired like that, talking, yelling, scolding, spanking, begging, cuddling, threatening, bribing, and distracting will usually have zero effect on the situation, and often times will make it worse. If the child you witnessed is anything like mine, it was probably all the mother (maybe herself tired after a day at work) could do to contain herself and be patient until they were off the bus. What you saw as complacency might well have been calculated control.

I, myself, didn't understand this kind of behavior until I had a child like this of my own. Being her parent has been the biggest challenge of my life.

(P.S. Please take my opening statement in the half-sarcastic tone it was intended.

)

All you say is very reasonable - BUT :

You chose to have children - you chose to accept all those consequences.

All the OP is saying is that he did not - why should he have to deal with the consequences of another person's decision - why have they the right to inflict this on other people?

**BullHorn** · #15 10-21-2008, 02:17 AM

I always take children to consideration when I board the train/bus. I usually stay the hell away. :P

Relic · #16 10-21-2008, 05:17 AM

on a side note - why do people refer to kids as "it" as opposed to he or she? At what age do they become human enough to be referred to by gender? I could never understand that!

Any kid can have a meltdown, that's just a part of being a kid. As a parent, if my kid does something like that I will always try to remove them from a situation where they will bother others, but sometimes you just can't. If that parent tried to coddle or cave in, then chances are every bus ride would end up like that. By ignoring the child, she showed her that the behavior will get her no where. Makes for much quieter bus rides in the future

Sorry you had to endure the noise, it bugs me too even when it's my kids, but sometimes a parent's gotta do what a parent's gotta do.

Bruce Lindfield · #17 10-21-2008, 05:37 AM

But why do they have the right to inflict that on other people, who may have chosen not to be parents..?

To me it's selfishness...?

ahkiatt · #18 10-21-2008, 05:55 AM

SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP!

Works with the South Park kids...

Baryonyx · #19 10-21-2008, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EricF

For kids wired like that, talking, yelling, scolding, spanking, begging, cuddling, threatening, bribing, and distracting will usually have zero effect on the situation, and often times will make it worse.

Does blindfolding not work, like you have a raging crocodile, blindfolding it calms it? If not, are you averse you physical restraint?

I have to say, screaming kids really irritate me, but I've never went as far as to tell someone to shut their kids up outside of work situation.

dlloyd · #20 10-21-2008, 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield

But why do they have the right to inflict that on other people, who may have chosen not to be parents..?

To me it's selfishness...?

Its selfish for those that choose not to be parents (or who have had that choice made for them) to be intolerant of a section of society that they will ultimately rely on.

If you want the sections of society you find irritating excluded from your daily commute, then you better stop taking public transport.