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10-06-2010, 10:29 AM
|  | Friends, Romans, Bass Players... | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Spencer, MA, USA | | | Patriots trade Randy Moss to Vikings
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Best of luck to him in Minny. The Pats can live without him. In NE it's all about the team, and if you turn into a selfish whiner you're gone. They've done it before, and they'll do it again.
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10-06-2010, 10:32 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tennessee | | | I think it hurt the Pats way more than it helps the Vikings.
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10-06-2010, 10:51 AM
|  | One lab accident away from being a supervillain | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Powder Springs, Ga | | | I think both teams will get what they deserve from this transaction.
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10-06-2010, 10:58 AM
|  | Online | | Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sunapee, New Hampshire | | | Cool man. It will be fun to watch him in Minnesota again.
-Mike | 
10-06-2010, 11:01 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lincoln, NE | | | I have Moss in my FF team. Wonder how this will affect me. | 
10-06-2010, 11:19 AM
| | Registered User General Manager, Roscoe Guitars | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC, USA | | Already said it elsewhere, but it bears repeating:
Good, now Mr. "I don't need to practice" can throw incomplete passes to Mr. "I take off plays whenever I like".
Net change in the future for the Vikes: zero
Net change in the future for the Pats: zero
Advantage: STRONGLY Pats 
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10-06-2010, 11:21 AM
| | Registered User General Manager, Roscoe Guitars | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC, USA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by anyonefortennis I have Moss in my FF team. Wonder how this will affect me. | Trade him. Now. Seriously.
...FAR-VUH can't stand up long enough to hit his receivers. Moss will just be another self-centered distraction in MN...
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10-06-2010, 12:24 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tennessee | | | Gard, I can't tell if your dislike of Moss outweighs your dislike of Farvuh
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10-06-2010, 12:55 PM
| | Registered User General Manager, Roscoe Guitars | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC, USA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by jp58 Gard, I can't tell if your dislike of Moss outweighs your dislike of Farvuh | I don't really dislike Moss, I just think he's a cancer.
So, to answer your question, no, my dislike of Moss doesn't really come close to outweighing my dislike of FAR-VUH. 
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10-06-2010, 01:01 PM
|  | It's time for Dodger baseball! | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mentone Beach | | | The Pats will miss him. The Vikings will have a resurgence. As much as I don't care for Randy Moss, he makes plays.
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10-06-2010, 01:04 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: (M)a$$hole. | | | Meh, we won just fine without a single catch by Moss last game, sure he's good deep, but, well...meh again.
At least I don't have to listen to his post-game whine fest anymore.
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10-06-2010, 01:04 PM
| | Registered User General Manager, Roscoe Guitars | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC, USA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by steamthief The Pats will miss him. The Vikings will have a resurgence. As much as I don't care for Randy Moss, he makes plays. | Small problem: if FAR-VUH can't stay on his feet long enough to throw the pass (bad offensive line), or can't hit him if he does have the time (he's been "off" from what I've seen - 6 INT/2 TD?), what good does Moss having that "playmaker" ability mean?
Two self-centered jerks, no matter how talented, do not make a good tandem.
As for the Pats missing him, hardly. They may not have the same deep threat they did with him, but their short passing game will not even notice his absence. I'll take one Wes Welker to a dozen Randy Moss', any day.
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10-06-2010, 01:11 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Bismarck | | | In the long run, it'll hurt the pats.
But why is everyone there so hell-bent on getting him gone? What did he do? | 
10-06-2010, 01:14 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tennessee | | | He doesn't fit the Pats image of being team Tom Brady, and he complained about some things publicly.
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10-06-2010, 01:19 PM
|  | Online | | Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sunapee, New Hampshire | | | The fact that Moss stretches the field makes guys like Aaron Hernandez and Wes Welker successful.
I'm not all that familiar with the Patriot WR's, so who is the deep threat now?
-Mike | 
10-06-2010, 01:19 PM
|  | Well, Ahoy Paloi | | Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cape Cod, MA | | | Pats will thrive without him, IMO.
They have some really good young Florida Gators to help on both Offense and Defense, better running backs w/out Maroney and the "Cancer" is gone. Pats play team ball, divas (like Farve & Moss) don't succeed in New England in the long run. Who the hell is surprised that Moss started bitching after game 1 about his contract? Anyone with class doesn't to that, especially at the 1st press conference and after soundly beating Cincinnati.
Tom "Justin Bieber" will miss him a little, but Gizelle will permit him to get a man's haircut, man up and all will be good in Patriot Land. | 
10-06-2010, 01:22 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Dallas | | randy was actually the vikings' backup plan--the wes welker cloning machine just didn't pan out for them
i really loved watching randall cunningham connecting with moss, might be fun to watch him with favre!
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10-06-2010, 01:27 PM
|  | Well, Ahoy Paloi | | Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cape Cod, MA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by MJ5150 .
I'm not all that familiar with the Patriot WR's, so who is the deep threat now?
-Mike | Brandon Tate (North Carolina), Taylor Price (Ohio U), Matt Slater (UCLA)
Not World Beaters, granted, but Tate has shown serious speed running back kickoff's in 2 games ( http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...5140&sport=NFL) | 
10-06-2010, 01:31 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado | | | Now that Gard has done his obligatory bashing, I'll offer my opinion....
Vikes gain a down-field threat, Pats lose one. Since I'm not a Pats fan, this doesn't bother me. It doesn't matter what QB is throwing to Moss, he's still a big factor in the game. It happens that the Vikes have a QB with a strong arm, so I expect it to be a substantial plus for them - and they can use it!
I don't care whether Moss resumes his normal sulking or not, he's still a deep threat. That's what matters.
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10-06-2010, 01:51 PM
|  | Friends, Romans, Bass Players... | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Spencer, MA, USA | | | In today's NFL the "deep threat" is really good for one thing only - clearing out defenders so the possession receiver can run his route without having to worry about too many defenders. A QB throwing a ball 60 yards deep is fraught with risks - the pass has to be pinpoint, there can't be double coverage, the pass blocking has to be outstanding, and the receiver has to get good separation from the defender. Even the QBs that are good deep-ball passers,such as Brady and Manning, fail more often than succeed. Most times, it's an interception just waiting to happen. What offenses have to do is make the deep-threat credible, which now both the Vikes and the Pats have to do.
For the Vikes, Favre has to hook up with Moss on a few deep balls to make the deep-threat credible - and against Revis and the Jetz this Monday night, it's a lot easier said than done! For the Pats, they now have to sell Brandon Tate as the next Randy Moss, and they have less than 2 weeks to do so in practice.
My opinion - Pats came out ahead on this, but not by much. Moss is a world-class receiver, a deep threat in every offensive series, but the locker room will be spared his moaning about his contract. But Brandon Tate has a lot of work to do!
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