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View Poll Results: Request or just email address exchange? | |
Never used (to or from) "Request Money" option.
|    | 15 | 40.54% | |
Used "Request Money" infrequently.
|    | 12 | 32.43% | |
Always (or mostly) use the "Request Money" option.
|    | 4 | 10.81% | |
"Request Carrots"??????
|    | 6 | 16.22% |
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08-18-2009, 04:36 AM
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Preface: I neglected to specify: Not an eBay invoice.
I'm pretty much talking about sales from classifieds outside of eBay where PayPal has no specific tie-ins. Sorry.
A fellow TB'r responded to something I had for sale. Instead of asking for my PayPal address he sent me a (at the time, confusing) PM that said "I'll take them. Send PayPal to "XXX@YYY.com" (his email)".
No other details. It looked like he was requesting money from me. This made no sense to me.
After a couple days and finally hooking back up it turns out he was expecting me to do a "money request" through PayPal and seemed to wonder why I would be confused by this.
Now I've done many hundreds (maybe over a thousand) of PayPal transactions over the years and never been asked to do it this way. He was of the attitude that I should not have been confused by this because he had done about 90 transactions and had always done it this way.
I said I thought he was most likely in the minority. He feels I'm wrong.
So the question for you frequent PayPal'rs:
How often (if ever) do you use, or have had it used on you, the "Request Money" option (not an eBay invoiced transaction) rather than just doing the simple thing of giving (or getting) an email address?
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08-18-2009, 04:49 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Edinburgh & Dundee, Scotland | | | With paypal being tied into ebay so well now, it doesnt happen to me anymore.
But I certainly used to get paypal invoices for items.
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08-18-2009, 05:12 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alexandria, VA | | | I've sent maybe 3-4 Paypal invoices in the few hundred transactions I've done using Paypal, but like you, there's only been one time where a prospective buyer just kinda threw their Paypal at me and seemingly expected me to send an invoice. I didn't really mind doing it, seeing as how the end result is the same, but yeah, I would say the seller sending a money request or invoice to the buyer is absolutely in the minority of transaction methods.
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08-18-2009, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by i_got_a_mohawk  With paypal being tied into ebay so well now, it doesnt happen to me anymore.
But I certainly used to get paypal invoices for items. | Quote:
Originally Posted by Hollow Man I've sent maybe 3-4 Paypal invoices in the few hundred transactions I've done using Paypal, but like you, there's only been one time where a prospective buyer just kinda threw their Paypal at me and seemingly expected me to send an invoice. I didn't really mind doing it, seeing as how the end result is the same, but yeah, I would say the seller sending a money request or invoice to the buyer is absolutely in the minority of transaction methods. | Oops! Sorry guys.
I meant outside of eBay where there are no PayPal tie-ins and you use the "Request Money" tab in PayPal rather than just giving (or getting) an email address, then sending or receiving. 
If you checked the "Infrequent" option by mistake believing eBay invoices counted, please specify.
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08-18-2009, 07:10 AM
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08-18-2009, 07:14 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Purple Mountain Majesties | | | Your buyer should have just explained that he was sending you his PayPal e-mail login and wanted you to send him an invoice via PayPal. It's not that uncommon, but still warranted an explanation. |
08-18-2009, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by electracoyote Your buyer should have just explained that he was sending you his PayPal e-mail login and wanted you to send him an invoice via PayPal. It's not that uncommon, but still warranted an explanation. | Uncommon enough that, in probably a thousand transactions, I'd never had it happen before. Just a PM or email with an email address to use for the transaction.
The whole "Request Money" invoice seems like a useless step as PayPal has all the same info when you send the funds...regardless.
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08-18-2009, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by PhatBasstard Uncommon enough that, in probably a thousand transactions, I'd never had it happen before. | How many of those 1,000 or so transactions are eBay items? |
08-18-2009, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by electracoyote How many of those 1,000 or so transactions are eBay items? | 140 tops. So OK, in about 860 transactions... 
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08-18-2009, 07:39 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Purple Mountain Majesties | | | Well, your poll currently shows half of the voters having done it at least once, so I stand by what I said. It may be uncommon, but it's not something to be alarmed about. The buyer may have just wanted to get the financial part of the transaction expedited as quickly as possible, and to hasten the process asked you to invoice him. No harm, no foul, actually kind of helpful when you think about it. |
08-18-2009, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by electracoyote Well, your poll currently shows half of the voters having done it at least once, so I stand by what I said. It may be uncommon, but it's not something to be alarmed about. The buyer may have just wanted to get the financial part of the transaction expedited as quickly as possible, and to hasten the process asked you to invoice him. No harm, no foul, actually kind of helpful when you think about it. | It doesn't expedite things anyway.
Situation A: Seller sends invoice
1) Buyer has to log into paypal and pay the invoice
Situation B: Seller doesn't send invoice
1) Buyer still has to log into paypal and "send money"
Since there's open communication either way, and obviously the buyer has internet access, then him paying the invoice or copy/pasting the e-mail address to send money is basically the same thing.
Regardless... in the few things I've sold here, and on other forum (maybe 75 total sells outside of eBay) I've never done this myself. |
08-18-2009, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by PhatBasstard 140 tops. So OK, in about 860 transactions... | 1,000 PayPal transactions and only 140 of those on ebay?
Wow. I'm genuinely surprised. I can't imagine having that much PayPal activity. Do you run some sort of business through there? Just curious.
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08-18-2009, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Ray Salamon Situation A: Seller sends invoice
1) Buyer has to log into paypal and pay the invoice
Situation B: Seller doesn't send invoice
1) Buyer still has to log into paypal and "send money" | OP said he received a "PM that said "I'll take them. Send PayPal to "XXX@YYY.com" (his email)".
Seems the buyer only sent the seller his PayPal e-mail and asked to be invoiced.
I still don't see a problem or cause for alarm or anything unusual. |
08-18-2009, 10:43 AM
|  | Hammer On! | | Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Babbling Brook | | | No biggie, I'll do it if they communicate they want a "Paypal invoice" in those words. It sounds like it could be a stall to delay payment-human nature.
If the responses to Never in the poll are any indication, it would be wise for anyone wanting to receive an invoice to communicate: "Please send a Paypal invoice to me at yada****@yahoo.com" |
08-18-2009, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Stacatto No biggie, I'll do it if they communicate they want a "Paypal invoice" in those words. It sounds like it could be a stall to delay payment-human nature.
If the responses to Never in the poll are any indication, it would be wise for anyone wanting to receive an invoice to communicate: "Please send a Paypal invoice to me at yada****@yahoo.com" | +1
I said the same in my first post. About the only thing "wrong" is the buyer wasn't specific and detailed enough. He could have said "please invoice me."
Still, the whole scenario is pretty benign. |
08-18-2009, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bassybill 1,000 PayPal transactions and only 140 of those on ebay?
Wow. I'm genuinely surprised. I can't imagine having that much PayPal activity. Do you run some sort of business through there? Just curious. | Talk Bass.com, Bass Gear.com, Craig's List, etc., etc..
eBay is, by far, not the only game in town. 
Just bought & sold a Pulcinella 6, a Lakland Glaub, and bought a Spector Euro NS2. All here on the TB boards. All PayPal. No eBay. Imagine that.
eBay, when selling, is often the last resort.
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08-18-2009, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by electracoyote OP said he received a "PM that said "I'll take them. Send PayPal to "XXX@YYY.com" (his email)".
Seems the buyer only sent the seller his PayPal e-mail and asked to be invoiced.
I still don't see a problem or cause for alarm or anything unusual. | No alarm. Calm down. 
Why not just ask for my email address like, apparently, most people do when using non-eBay related PayPal?!? No extra log in. No extra hassle. Game over. It was the uncommon and confusing way it was done that caused the problem. Get it? Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray Salamon It doesn't expedite things anyway.
Situation A: Seller sends invoice
1) Buyer has to log into paypal and pay the invoice
Situation B: Seller doesn't send invoice
1) Buyer still has to log into paypal and "send money"
Since there's open communication either way, and obviously the buyer has internet access, then him paying the invoice or copy/pasting the e-mail address to send money is basically the same thing.
Regardless... in the few things I've sold here, and on other forum (maybe 75 total sells outside of eBay) I've never done this myself. | What he said.
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08-18-2009, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by electracoyote Well, your poll currently shows half of the voters having done it at least once, so I stand by what I said. It may be uncommon, but it's not something to be alarmed about. The buyer may have just wanted to get the financial part of the transaction expedited as quickly as possible, and to hasten the process asked you to invoice him. No harm, no foul, actually kind of helpful when you think about it. | You must remember the finer points here:
He stated he always did it this way and couldn't figure out how I could have not understood his original PM.
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08-18-2009, 02:02 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas | | | It could be a CYA thing...he might feel safer if the seller sends the invoice and lists the items, shipping, etc, rather than a buyer just sending money out into the ether with a vague memo attached.
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08-18-2009, 02:05 PM
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I may have done it once or twice as a seller when someone asked me to, I didn't ask why, that would've meant more typing
Far more often, as a buyer it's "What's your Paypal info?" to the seller. Pretty simple. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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