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Old 01-07-2011, 11:28 PM
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Pigs reportedly being buried alive to stop spread of disease

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It is reported that 2,400 pigs have been buried alive in the Republic of Korea. Live burial causes severe suffering to animals and is contrary to any internationally accepted standard of treatment.

The Republic of Korea is a member of the OIE (World Organisation for Animal Health) and live burial of animals is in clear breach of the OIE Guidelines on the Killing of Animals for Disease Control Purposes.
If this is true. it is just sickening that anyone could adopt such a practice.
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They should have the decency to humanely kill them first so they don't suffer. I understand them wanting to destoy the diseased pigs but, put them out of their misery at least.
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Old 01-07-2011, 11:36 PM
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They should have the decency to humanely kill them first so they don't suffer. I understand them wanting to destoy the diseased pigs but, put them out of their misery at least.
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I know its selfish to say i would rather ignore a problem, but as a pescatarian and a man who tries to keep a low carbon footprint and care about earth, i wish my eyes could unsee this. seriously, so disturbing.
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Sure, burying corpses to prevent the spread of disease, or even burning the corpses, I agree with that. Note that I said 'CORPSE', not 'live pig'.

All it would take it for a worker to stab it, inject them with an anesthetic/poison, or any other simple, yet humane method. Then again, we're looking at a region where they believe that if a dog is tortured and brutally killed before death, the meat tastes better.
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I can understand not using a captive bolt gun - those are expensive, and many need expensive cartridges. I can understand not doing injections - too dangerous to the workers, and too expensive. I can understand not shooting them - again, too dangerous and too expensive.

I was planning to suggest an axe to the head, but I just now realized that maybe the workers would be psychologically unable to do this for hours on end?

I'm just wondering if maybe they're burying them alive because they don't have a safe, economical, effective means of slaughtering in the numbers required?
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Old 01-08-2011, 12:10 AM
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I can understand not using a captive bolt gun - those are expensive, and many need expensive cartridges. I can understand not doing injections - too dangerous to the workers, and too expensive. I can understand not shooting them - again, too dangerous and too expensive.

I was planning to suggest an axe to the head, but I just now realized that maybe the workers would be psychologically unable to do this for hours on end?

I'm just wondering if maybe they're burying them alive because they don't have a safe, economical, effective means of slaughtering in the numbers required?
That's kind of the point, I guess. There are guidelines for dealing with this situation that the RoK signed up to, and if the report is true the guidelines are being ignored.
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I don't envy that situation, what happened here in the U.K. in 2001 looked like visions of hell, masses of animals on funeral pyres.

Executing these animals isn't rocket science, there must be a humane way to deal with this
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You know.... with the expertise in killing stuff that the human race seems to have, I find it shocking and nauseating that this is being done like that.
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That's kind of the point, I guess. There are guidelines for dealing with this situation that the RoK signed up to, and if the report is true the guidelines are being ignored.
And a government signing a document and not abiding by it surprises you because...?
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Of course it's stupid, cruel, senseless and unnecessary.

It's Korea. The country is run by people who are insane. And let's face it, a lot of stories and behavior in that country run short on warm fuzziness.
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Of course it's stupid, cruel, senseless and unnecessary.

It's Korea. The country is run by people who are insane. And let's face it, a lot of stories and behavior in that country run short on warm fuzziness.
RoK = South Korea = your allies.
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Of course it's stupid, cruel, senseless and unnecessary.

It's Korea. The country is run by people who are insane. And let's face it, a lot of stories and behavior in that country run short on warm fuzziness.
This is the sane South, not the crazies in the North, they don't even have pigs.

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Of course it's stupid, cruel, senseless and unnecessary.

It's Korea. The country is run by people who are insane. And let's face it, a lot of stories and behavior in that country run short on warm fuzziness.
Normally the Republic of Korea is a reference to S. Korea, a thriving country with a reasonable level of democracy that is probably second only to Japan in its standard of living among Asian countries. I wouldn't exactly call the people running it insane.

OTOH, the Democratic Republic of Korea generally refers to N. Korea, Not many arguments with the insane description as applied to their leadership. Funny how the one titled "democratic" is perhaps the least democratic on the planet. But then a good general rule when you look at countries names, is that if the word "peoples or democratic appears in a countries name it usually means they have a callous disregard for both.
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Old 01-08-2011, 10:55 AM
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Of course it's stupid, cruel, senseless and unnecessary.

It's Korea. The country is run by people who are insane. And let's face it, a lot of stories and behavior in that country run short on warm fuzziness.
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EDIT ah, on teh other hand if you mean NK, then yeah, you nailed it.
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My error. Perhaps South Korea is a paragon of proper behavior and warm fuzziness. They just happen to be regrettably short on insane leaders. Maybe they can borrow one from their cousins to the North?

Hey, I agree this is a disgusting and reprehensible thing for them to do. I have no idea why it happened. But given the country in which it occurred, I'm less surprised than I would have been if it had happened in many other countries.

It's interesting that a Google search does not show this appearing in major US media. It seems to be covered in other countries.

This story is especially interesting - it states that the South Korean government has refused to inoculate pigs rather than killing them. the story estimates the economic impact of inoculations at 63 million pounds, whereas killing them will have an economic impact of 230 million pounds.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor...Mass_Criticism

This makes no economic sense. But I mention again, it's Korea (north or South, I don't care...both operate very differently than we do.) Over the past 40+ years, I've seen their leaders do a lot of stubborn things. They tend to decide something, then go ahead with no regard for fact or alternatives.
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And a government signing a document and not abiding by it surprises you because...?
I never said it surprised me.
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