Professional Painters Help!

[metron]

So I am painting my ceiling and it is driving my insane. I am rolling on flat pure white ceiling paint by Behr and I have gone over the entire thing twice already. My problem is that there are spots where it isn't applied evenly and I can see it pretty well after it dries. It's so hard to see it when I am putting the coat on because it's pure white going on top of white. I have redone a few rooms and it always ends being a new missed spot in a different place.

So this last coat I got everything pretty well done except for some ugly spots that I want to fix. At this point I am running very low on paint, time, patience, and sanity.

My question is: Is there any way to properly patch just a spot as opposed to doing the entire field again? It never looks right to me when I try to patch it up by putting more on in one spot after it dries.

[funkingroovin]

I believe Killz and Sikkens make the paint that goes on blue/pink and dries to white,just for the white on white prob.
As for patching in properly,it's just like making a pizza crust. Splotch the "dry" spot,and dry roll from the center out,in a spoke pattern.Dont focus on the dry spot,rather focus on feathering the paint to the surrounding area w/o leaving "wet" lines.
At first it will stand out,but wont be noticeable when dry.

[Gard]

As funkin' says, there are ceiling paints available that go on one color wet, then dry to white to address just this issue. I have used a Valspar product that does this, and it's great for it.

[billjr]

You shouldn't have a problem with covering the spots since the base coat is fresh and hasn't yellowed or gotten dirty. Just use the same applicator type as you originally used (roller I presume), and roll through the spot, putting less pressure towards the edges so it feathers in smoothly with the base coat. If you rolled the original coat, do not brush the spots, as this will leave you with two different surface textures that will stand out and be extremely obvious.

[Jim Campbell]

Originally Posted by metron

So I am painting my ceiling and it is driving my insane. I am rolling on flat pure white ceiling paint by Behr and I have gone over the entire thing twice already. My problem is that there are spots where it isn't applied evenly and I can see it pretty well after it dries. It's so hard to see it when I am putting the coat on because it's pure white going on top of white. I have redone a few rooms and it always ends being a new missed spot in a different place.

So this last coat I got everything pretty well done except for some ugly spots that I want to fix. At this point I am running very low on paint, time, patience, and sanity.

My question is: Is there any way to properly patch just a spot as opposed to doing the entire field again? It never looks right to me when I try to patch it up by putting more on in one spot after it dries.

what the pros do is load the roller with enough paint to make 3 1 way same direction roller width passes,slightly overlapping 4 feet in one direction...you will probably reload after the first 1 1/2

then go 90 degrees across the area from one end to the other,back and forth while moving across

then go back to the first direction to take the seams out,strokes all 1 way

it takes a little practice but its fast and covers every time......practice on a wall top,bottom,next row, top, bottom.......

using the pattern assures that nothing is missed.....

putting more paint on an area will show,but you can feather it out to look better

[Absentia]

Treat the first coat as a primer coat then roll on a darker color....

I'm not a proud man


But what bill says, Don't feel bad my kitchen and dining room needed 4 coats, grandad was a heavy smoker.

[metron]

Thanks TB OT forum!

I used Killz 2 for the primer and it's almost pure white. I didn't think about the problems I would have putting white on white at the time. Too bad I will never paint the ceiling again.

I do have a pretty good technique down. Make a W then fill it in and go back at 90 degrees to get the streaks out. I just keep missing spots. Sounds like feathering is the key. i got used to that while mud skimming earlier this year.

Anyway with the exception of the missed areas, it's looking really good so far. If this works out Ill have a pint or three for you guys!

[metron]

Originally Posted by funkingroovin

I believe Killz and Sikkens make the paint that goes on blue/pink and dries to white,just for the white on white prob.
As for patching in properly,it's just like making a pizza crust. Splotch the "dry" spot,and dry roll from the center out,in a spoke pattern.Dont focus on the dry spot,rather focus on feathering the paint to the surrounding area w/o leaving "wet" lines.
At first it will stand out,but wont be noticeable when dry.

So for covering a spot, is this "spoke pattern" technique preferred to just covering it with a W and filling it in?

[billjr]

IMO I don't think it will matter what pattern you use, as the coat you are painting over is fresh and the colors will match when dry. The nap of the roller will blend the pattern in as you roll it any direction. The biggest problem can be the thick edge of paint that comes out of a roller'e edges if you press too hard, and when the roller is freshly loaded with paint. Be sure you roll over those lines with just enough pressure to smooth them out after you get the spot coverred and most of the paint is out of the roller.

[metron]

Thanks billjr!