For Rams ,Lions, Bucs and Brown fans [race for the worst thread].

bassrique · #1 12-13-2009, 05:29 PM

Shall we include the Chiefs and Skins fans too?

As a Bucs fan, there's a silver lining looking towards the future:

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15 Sun, Dec 20th, 2009 at Seattle 04:15 PM Qwest Field

16 Sun, Dec 27th, 2009 at New_Orleans 01:00 PM Louisiana Superdome

17 Sun, Jan 3rd, 2010 Atlanta 01:00 PM Raymond James Stadium

No, not that future, this future:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M89c3hWx3RQ

This kinda DT only comes along once a decade, so I really hope we loose the rest of three the games [almost a given considering], and the cheapo Glazers shell out the dough.

What's you loser team and who do you want? Also, do you want your team to win any more games? Do you want to keep your coach? Your owner[s]?

Number27 · #2 12-13-2009, 10:44 PM

oh there's no question that the bucs will lose the rest of their games this year.

but there's also the rams:

vs. Houston
@ Arizona
vs. San Fran

loss, loss, and loss. frankly nobody else is in the running.

what are the tie breakers for who gets the number 1 pick? cuz i would imagine the rams would also be interested in suh... although they might also be tempted by a quarterback too.

bassrique · #3 12-14-2009, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Number27

oh there's no question that the bucs will lose the rest of their games this year.

but there's also the rams:

vs. Houston
@ Arizona
vs. San Fran

loss, loss, and loss. frankly nobody else is in the running.

what are the tie breakers for who gets the number 1 pick? cuz i would imagine the rams would also be interested in suh... although they might also be tempted by a quarterback too.

I was reading somewhere that if both the Rams and Bucs both "lose out", the Rams will have the #1 pick. The Rams picked a DT with their #1 last year, no? They wouldn't pick Suh, would they? Hmmmmmmm.....The Rams have a very defensive-minded coach, no? [Forgot his name.]

NoTalentHack · #4 12-14-2009, 02:51 PM

I'm just glad to see the Raiders didn't make your list! Although with Gradkowski out we'll probably lose out too.

**Jerose** · #5 12-14-2009, 03:14 PM

Bills didn't make the list?

Jared Lash · #6 12-14-2009, 03:26 PM

Well, the Chiefs, Raiders and Browns all beat last year's Super Bowl Champions. That's got to count for something.

capnsandwich · #7 12-14-2009, 03:38 PM

I'm a Lions fan. I've been so since I was old enough to watch football. We've got Arizona next, which is a BIG "L", then San Fran at San Fran, another L, then the Bears at home. We may get that one but I doubt it. I'd love to get Ndamukong Suh from Nebraska in the draft, most teams will probably be gunning for a QB or a RB, maybe a WR, but we need a defense and Ndamukong Suh would be a good cornerstone to build on IMO.

Ground Pounder · #8 12-14-2009, 04:51 PM

The worse part is, unless the Lions lose out and get the number 1 pick, they'll have no leverage to trade down because everyone below them knows they're not taking a QB with the number 2-3-or 4 pick because of the Stafford pick last year, and the teams picking 4-5-or 6 know that the Raiders and Chiefs won't be picking QB with that pick either.

Face it, Colt McCoy will probably be the first QB to go, and it might not be until the middle of the first round, unless Cleveland or Tampa Bay goes nuts and pick him somewhere 5 thru 10. But all those teams need a lot of help, so I don't see that happening. The Rams or the Redskins might find that he's too good to pass up in the 8-10 holes, but that's going to be a coaches preference.

Notice I didn't put the Seahawks or 49'ers in there, because there's no way Holmgren or Singletary will allow that high of a pick to be wasted on a QB (because yes, Holmgren is coming back).

Honestly, I think McCoy is going to the Bills or the Panthers in the middle of the first round.

Hopefully the combine will be stellar again this year and a lot of high-ranked players will get hyped up enough to make those "other than Suh" top 5 picks desireable so we can trade out and get some other help in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

bassrique · #9 12-14-2009, 05:06 PM

Where do you guys see Cody going [EDIT: What round and what team]? Teams running or thinking of running a 3-4 must love the thought of him at NT.

EDITII: Has to be a first rounder, no? High to mid first rounder?

Jared Lash · #10 12-14-2009, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ground Pounder

The worse part is, unless the Lions lose out and get the number 1 pick, they'll have no leverage to trade down because everyone below them knows they're not taking a QB with the number 2-3-or 4 pick because of the Stafford pick last year, and the teams picking 4-5-or 6 know that the Raiders and Chiefs won't be picking QB with that pick either.

Face it, Colt McCoy will probably be the first QB to go, and it might not be until the middle of the first round.

The Raiders absolutely would take a QB if they thought there was a franchise guy there. JaMarcus Russell is done. If Gradkowski wasn't injured he wouldn't have played another snap this season and he has shown no signs of ever being an NFL quality QB.

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Originally Posted by Ground Pounder

Notice I didn't put the Seahawks or 49'ers in there, because there's no way Holmgren or Singletary will allow that high of a pick to be wasted on a QB (because yes, Holmgren is coming back).

Honestly, I think McCoy is going to the Bills or the Panthers in the middle of the first round.

I'm really hoping the Niners don't have another top 10 pick. They are on the outskirts now. We'll see. As for the Panthers, I could see them losing all their remaining games easily. And they won't be picking anything in the first round. The Niners own their pick.

Number27 · #11 12-14-2009, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bassrique

I was reading somewhere that if both the Rams and Bucs both "lose out", the Rams will have the #1 pick. The Rams picked a DT with their #1 last year, no? They wouldn't pick Suh, would they? Hmmmmmmm.....The Rams have a very defensive-minded coach, no? [Forgot his name.]

oh i didn't realize that they picked up a DT last year... admittedly i didn't really follow the draft last year (or any year really). the more i think about it the more it makes sense for the rams to draft a quarterback. bulger is done.

srxplayer · #12 12-15-2009, 09:43 PM

I a Rams fan from way back.

The Rams picked an Offensive Lineman this year. They picked Howie Longs Kid last year.

They need more O-line help and a QB of the future. I think Bulger is a good QB but the guy won't survive long enough to finsh his contract if they keep letting him get killed.

They also need Wide Receivers that can run routes and get open. These hacks they have (with the exception of Avery and the return kid, Amendola I think is his name) are useless.

The guy I feel bad for is Steven Jackson. That guy is going to waste away in St. Louis if they don't get help. They should trade him and give him a chance to play on a good team.

Number27 · #13 12-15-2009, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by srxplayer

I a Rams fan from way back.

The Rams picked an Offensive Lineman this year. They picked Howie Longs Kid last year.

They need more O-line help and a QB of the future. I think Bulger is a good QB but the guy won't survive long enough to finsh his contract if they keep letting him get killed.

They also need Wide Receivers that can run routes and get open. These hacks they have (with the exception of Avery and the return kid, Amendola I think is his name) are useless.

The guy I feel bad for is Steven Jackson. That guy is going to waste away in St. Louis if they don't get help. They should trade him and give him a chance to play on a good team.

no kidding, by the time st. louis has put together a line for jackson to run behind he'll be over the hill.

i think they should pick a couple offensive linemen with the number 1 pick (or trade it down, w/e) then take tim tebow in the third round or something and run a wildcat offense with him and jackson. would be better (and at the very least more entertaining) than what they've got going on now.

MJ5150 · #14 12-16-2009, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by bassrique

Where do you guys see Cody going?

He has to go to the right team that will use him properly, and he'll be fine. He did sprain his MCL last year, which may worry some teams long term. That, and concerns about his weight. He seems to have his weight under control, which is good news. Playing for Saban an extra year definitely helped him become more disciplined. He is only a two down player, which actually isn't all that uncommon for his position. In my opinion, he is the best true NT in the draft.

If the Steelers stay with the 3-4, he would be a great replacement for Hampton.

-Mike

yellofury · #15 12-16-2009, 07:24 AM

Rams will get first round draft due to their schedule versus ours (Bucs)
The Glazers took a gamble with Morris and they lost
They should never had let go Dungy IMHO
I am not a Colts fan but I am a Tony Dungy fan

burk48237 · #16 12-16-2009, 07:42 AM

The Lions basically need O Line, D Line, Running back, Linebackers, Kicker, Return men, D Backs, and Safeties. Other then that they're set.

My hope is that they can get a dominant defensive lineman. I can't remember the last time this team had a defensive stud. Sadly they still run the football terribly, and O line help plus a true #1 back would be great too.

jrthebassguy · #17 12-16-2009, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by burk48237

The Lions basically need O Line, D Line, Running back, Linebackers, Kicker, Return men, D Backs, and Safeties. Other then that they're set.

My hope is that they can get a dominant defensive lineman. I can't remember the last time this team had a defensive stud. Sadly they still run the football terribly, and O line help plus a true #1 back would be great too.

If the Lions want to keep Matt Stafford around, they probably need to buff up on O-line more than anything, otherwise he'll probably end up with an injury-related early retirement.

burk48237 · #18 12-16-2009, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jrthebassguy

If the Lions want to keep Matt Stafford around, they probably need to buff up on O-line more than anything, otherwise he'll probably end up with an injury-related early retirement.

Actually healthy the O line hasn't been a disaster on pass protection with the exception of the Vikings game. But run blocking is a different story. Detroit has had no running game to speak of since the great Barry Saunders turned in his cleats prematurely. I was shocked to find out that the starting left tackle (Jeff Backus) hasn't given up a sack this season. They have had some health issues, but overall they haven't been the glaring weakness of the team.

But the no running game makes the issue worse. It's hard for a O line to look good when every third down is third and ten. Our number one running back (Kevin Smith) just went down with a knee injury. I'm not sure he's a legitimate one, but he'd be a solid runner in a good committee backfield.

srxplayer · #19 12-16-2009, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Number27

no kidding, by the time st. louis has put together a line for jackson to run behind he'll be over the hill.

i think they should pick a couple offensive linemen with the number 1 pick (or trade it down, w/e) then take tim tebow in the third round or something and run a wildcat offense with him and jackson. would be better (and at the very least more entertaining) than what they've got going on now.

That sounds interesting. Jackson and Tebow back there. I think I like it.