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09-07-2010, 11:13 AM
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This is interesting. I do not feel sorry for Reggie Bush since he was not exactly starving and begging for food in college, and he now has a Superbowl ring and a successful NFL career. I do feel that Pete Carroll, as the head coach, should not be able to escape some sort of public shaming too.
BTW, both Bush and Kim Kardashian dodged bullets by not getting married. Kardashian would have had her trophy husband/publicity source blow up in her face, and Bush likely dodged getting nicked by divorce lawyers taking his loot! 
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09-07-2010, 11:17 AM
|  | Online | | Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sunapee, New Hampshire | | | I'm still trying to make the connection as to how Reggie was a better player since he had a Escalade and tight crib.
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09-07-2010, 11:17 AM
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09-07-2010, 11:17 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London UK | | | So you're saying that erroenous Trojans may ruin Kardashian's Bush?
This sounds like a serious situation to me.
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09-07-2010, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by anyonefortennis  OJ still has his, right? | Dudes like OJ or Billie Cannon did nothing bad while earning their Heismans.
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09-07-2010, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Latimour So you're saying that erroenous Trojans may ruin Kardashian's Bush?
This sounds like a serious situation to me. | /Thread |
09-07-2010, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by MJ5150 I'm still trying to make the connection as to how Reggie was a better player since he had a Escalade and tight crib.
-Mike | I'm not one for stripping anyone of their Heisman. That's sacred football territory as far as I'm concerned.
However, I have heard the argument put forth, and it makes sense to me, that if Reggie was getting perks then other players probably were too. That would make it easier to recruit top talent which would make the team around him (e.g. offensive line) better which would help him to play better.
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09-07-2010, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by PSPookie I'm not one for stripping anyone of their Heisman. That's sacred football territory as far as I'm concerned.
However, I have heard the argument put forth, and it makes sense to me, that if Reggie was getting perks then other players probably were too. That would make it easier to recruit top talent which would make the team around him (e.g. offensive line) better which would help him to play better. | Yeah - I think it's more of USC getting stripped of the Heisman while Reggie Bush being caught in the crossfire. That said, Reggie still had to say 'Yes' to getting all the stuff he knew he shouldn't have.
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09-07-2010, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by PSPookie I'm not one for stripping anyone of their Heisman. That's sacred football territory as far as I'm concerned.
However, I have heard the argument put forth, and it makes sense to me, that if Reggie was getting perks then other players probably were too. That would make it easier to recruit top talent which would make the team around him (e.g. offensive line) better which would help him to play better. | Hmmm. Decent argument.
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09-07-2010, 11:50 AM
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09-07-2010, 12:01 PM
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09-07-2010, 12:02 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Fort Worth, Texas | | | Here's a great side issue:
Vince Young finished 2nd that year. Does he get the Heisman? Or do they simply vacate the award for that year?
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09-07-2010, 12:06 PM
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09-07-2010, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by fo shizzle Here's a great side issue:
Vince Young finished 2nd that year. Does he get the Heisman? Or do they simply vacate the award for that year? | The committee announced it would be vacated. Well, that is according to the report. Nothing official yet.
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09-07-2010, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MJ5150 I'm still trying to make the connection as to how Reggie was a better player since he had a Escalade and tight crib.
-Mike | Thing is it's not about that, it's about playing by the rules, and if he knowingly broke them, then he should be punished for it.
If the situation is as out of control at USC as people seem to make it, then stripping a Heisman from some one sends a VERY clear message to (hopefully) help curb the problem.
I have no opinion on the matter either way, but I did hear today at around noon (before this report obviously) that the committee had no plans to strip the Heisman from Reggie Bush.
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09-07-2010, 02:06 PM
| | Online | | Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sunapee, New Hampshire | | | I hear you guys. I was just sparking some conversation.
The guy was great in college, with or without the Escalade. He didn't cheat to get an edge on the field, so I think he should keep it.
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09-07-2010, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric Perry I have no opinion either way. Regardless, I can't WAIT to hear what Gard has to say! lmao! | Yep. Me too. |
09-07-2010, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MJ5150 I hear you guys. I was just sparking some conversation.
The guy was great in college, with or without the Escalade. He didn't cheat to get an edge on the field, so I think he should keep it.
-Mike | Right yea I mean I get what you're saying, and I think that the committee, if they are going to take the award may be looking to make an example out of him, which is their perogative. He certainly busted his balls on and off the field to get where he got, but if he was breaking serious rules (i.e. rules that force teams to vacate games, scholarships, etc) then he should have to pay a price as well for accepting.
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09-07-2010, 02:11 PM
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09-07-2010, 02:12 PM
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