Remains of ship found at WTC site.

[Stinsok]

Freaky.

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20..._interstitial/

[Dr. Cheese]

Originally Posted by Stinsok

Freaky.

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20..._interstitial/

New York is pretty old for a city in the Western Hemisphere. Remember twenty years ago when a massive slave cemetary was found in Lower Manhattan? It fell out of use in the late 1700's and was just forgotten. Subways and Wall Street were all built on the bodies of 20,000 slaves.

The point is that over time, stuff gets forgotten, and eventually covered. That fact gives archeaologists jobs.

[Relic]

Pretty cool.

A few years back my brother was somewhere at the Jersey shore (can't remember which one) when he spotted a big hunk of driftwood on the shore. Thinking it would look neat around his swimming pool landscaping he tossed it into his pick up truck and took it home. It was when he was cleaning it off that he realized it was actually part of a ship. You can see (though its very rotted) that its sort of "u" or "v" shaped and contains the remains of rusted bolts and some sort of wooden dowels running through the beam. Really neat.

[Relic]

Originally Posted by Dr. Cheese

New York is pretty old for a city in the Western Hemisphere. Remember twenty years ago when a massive slave cemetary was found in Lower Manhattan? It fell out of use in the late 1700's and was just forgotten. Subways and Wall Street were all built on the bodies of 20,000 slaves.

The point is that over time, stuff gets forgotten, and eventually covered. That fact gives archeaologists jobs.

There were also some pretty infamous retaliatory Indian massacres there by the Dutch when it was still New Amsterdam.

[PSPookie]

I'm not sure how, exactly, but this is definitely part of The Conspiracy.

[KeithBMI]

It was those damned redcoats the whole time!

[warwick.hoy]

That's really cool.

[mrpackerguy]

I oft wondered what treasures or archeologic wonders lie undiscovered beneath our buildings, roads, bridges, etc. The answers to many questions I'm sure, never to be discovered for millenia.

[MJ5150]

Originally Posted by mrpackerguy

I oft wondered what treasures or archeologic wonders lie undiscovered beneath our buildings, roads, bridges, etc. The answers to many questions I'm sure, never to be discovered for millenia.

Check out the movie National Treasure. There is some really cool stuff in NYC.



-Mike

[rr5025]

Originally Posted by PSPookie

I'm not sure how, exactly, but this is definitely part of The Conspiracy.

The ship was buried because it had the worlds first cell phone in it?

[Mark Wilson]

Buried under a building is NO place for a boat.

[jp58]

Its a wonder things like this disappear, but I guess as long asit gives treasure hunters (see archeology) a job...

[varunkapahi]

so when they were originally building the wtc they dug the foundation didnt they? where was the boat then?

[champbassist]

Originally Posted by varunkapahi

so when they were originally building the wtc they dug the foundation didnt they? where was the boat then?

Apparently, they came across this ship while digging for the construction of a new underground vehicle security center for the WTC. So I conjecture they were digging somewhere they hadn't before or they dug deeper than they had before.

[Deathblade Eric]

Originally Posted by Dr. Cheese

New York is pretty old for a city in the Western Hemisphere.

Barely had time for the shine to wear off http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ous_habitation

Originally Posted by varunkapahi

so when they were originally building the wtc they dug the foundation didnt they? where was the boat then?

Off to one side a bit. I get the feeling the new WTC will be rather larger than the old one, & this site is intended to be underground parking.

Dendrochronology should give a pretty good idea of the date (carbon dating is pretty rubbish on 'modern' stuff), & any other artifacts surrounding the hulk will help - there's reports of a lot of shoe parts, & Fashion is a very good dating tool.

Something similar was found some years back right next to Tower Bridge when the Museum of London conducted an emergency dig prior to the contractors starting work on the GLA HQ building - some quite substantial remnants of Medieval barges that had been used as retaining walls in a Vivarium (i.e a huge open-air fish tank), oh, and the World's Oldest Banana: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/370550.stm

Pete.

[TheBass]

While looking at the pictures it seems to me the ship was just a few meters below ground level http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fo...cke-57199.html. Strange, but it might also be the viewing perspective. They wrote it was probably used as land filling material in the 17th century.

[varunkapahi]

Originally Posted by TheBass

While looking at the pictures it seems to me the ship was just a few meters below ground level http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fo...cke-57199.html. Strange, but it might also be the viewing perspective. They wrote it was probably used as land filling material in the 17th century.

yeah exactly what i was thinking but maybe they are digging somewhere next to the original site, but there isnt much free space around there right? hmmm

[john turner]

Originally Posted by Dr. Cheese

Subways and Wall Street were all built on the bodies of 20,000 slaves.

ironic symbolism, i would say.

[Stinsok]

I wonder if someone said "shouldn't we move the boat before we fill in?"

[john turner]

if the ground was muddy/marshy they might have put it there to help hold the ground together.