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12-17-2010, 04:05 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Joao Pessoa, Brazil | | RIP Captain Beefheart
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12-17-2010, 04:20 PM
|  | Johnny and Joe | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chicago | | Wow! I had no idea he was ill.  Love or hate his music, he was an original. RIP, Don Van Vliet.
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12-17-2010, 04:23 PM
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12-17-2010, 04:23 PM
|  | Is this thing on? | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Where else? In the dog house. | | I hope he's at the party of special things to do. Maybe he's wearing a nighty. | 
12-17-2010, 04:54 PM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Close to Los Angeles, CA | | Damn.
I just listened to Zappa's Willie The Pimp a few days ago. | 
12-17-2010, 05:27 PM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: 3rd stone from the sun | | | RIP Captain. And tell Frank we miss him.
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12-17-2010, 06:38 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: London, UK | | | RIP. very sad news. | 
12-17-2010, 06:44 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York City | | | me sad | 
12-17-2010, 08:33 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Fredericksburg, Virginia | | | NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
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12-17-2010, 08:49 PM
|  | User | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: East Coast | | | His work with Zappa made a huge impression on me in the '70s. I was listening to the live recording of 'Muffin Man' last week.
The Magic Band was a great show, too. Hope his spirit is wandering across the desert night sky.
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12-17-2010, 10:24 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Redford, MI | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Thunderscreech NO NO NO NO NO NO NO | I could not have said it better. I knew he had MS and that this was coming. It's still a shock.
Sweetest music this side of heaven. 
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12-17-2010, 11:03 PM
|  | The Lowdown Diggler | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Huntington Beach, CA | | Damn. Sad day indeed.  | 
12-17-2010, 11:13 PM
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12-17-2010, 11:19 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: NET | | | A blow to the soul. I salute the man whose free-ranging mind and artistic sensibility renewed and extended the blues form, in collaboration with the fantastic players he attracted. He was my main man since´68. Just a week ago I sold off my entire CB&MB vinyl collection, including 11 live bootleg albums, in a fit that now seems like a premonition. It's better that his music is out there than that I hoard it. His reputation as a visionary musician and painter will continue to grow, as will his influence ranging from rowdy punk bands to the most rarified avant-garde. He was unique. "Fallin' ditch ain't gonna get my bones." "The black paper between a mirror breaks my heart that I can't go... " "The dust blows forward and the dust blows back." "My smile is stuck, I cannot go back to your Frownland." "Steal softly thru sunshine, steal softly thru snow. "
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12-18-2010, 01:52 AM
|  | Total Hyper-Elite Member | | Join Date: May 2000 Location: Groom Lake, NV | | I used to go see a band in San Diego called "Picket Fence" which ultimately became "Buckwheat" back in the '70s. Their keyboardist was Michael Smotherman, who joined Captain Beefheart after Don fired his band. The new band members became what was known as "The Tragic Band." Here's what Smotherman had to say about it. Quote:
As a card carrying former member of the Tragic Band, I would like to put straight a few things that have become gospel somehow, just for the hell of it. I know that it is difficult to fly in the face of legend, but for anyone interested in the truth, here goes.
First of all, the original Magic Band (Zoot Horn Rollo, Drumbo, et.al) did not quit en-masse "a few days before an important tour." Don fired them. He was not under the Svengali-like influence of "powerful record executives" in this decision.
This strange little manager-producer that he had suggested that if he went commercial, whatever that is, he stood a good chance of making more money, and believe me, as anyone who knows Don will tell you, he is not opposed to this concept.
Secondly, we didn't just have twenty-seven minutes or whatever to rehearse. We rehearsed for weeks. I can still remember that crummy little rehearsal hall in North Hollywood that smelled like piss and cigarette butts, and thinking that if we had to do "Mirror Man" one more time I was going to start tearing something up.
It still puzzles me that Don, who was a grown man in his thirties at the time, could make a conscious and informed decision to try and advance his career, and when it went south on him it was somehow OUR fault. Like we had anything to do with anything. We were but grunts, people (and treated like it, believe me), young scuffling musicians one bologna sandwich away from the street, and even though the job didn't pay squat we were glad to get it. I believe that we did the best professional job that we could, and under the circumstances did as well as anybody else could have.
Now having said all that, I'd also like to say that I actually had a good time on that gig overall. Don is an interesting cat, to say the least. And believe me, oh my brother, we were ALL bozos on that bus. There was Don, muttering constantly about God knows what, his wife Jan (who is a cool chick), a crazy Jamaican bus driver who quit two or three times on the middle of the freeway, a Scottish road manager who was a very righteous dude, two or three roadies from some God-forsaken place like Romania or something who couldn't speak English and smoked cigarettes in their sleep, we Tragic Banders, drinking like circus workers, assorted record company weasels, a bunch of English blokes who were our warm-up act and couldn't play for **** so they called it "progressive jazz", and last but certainly not least, Frick and Frack, these crazy little tiny Italian brothers from Brooklyn who were the Captain's managers, producers, publishers, agents, tour managers, CPA's, house painters, and God knows what else. Think two identical Kramer's from Seinfeld only real short and in leather jackets and on acid, and you've pretty much got the picture.
It's a drag that Don got semi-vilified for taking a chance that didn't pan out, and ludicrous that we were vilified, since we didn't have **** to do with it.
What if it had been a huge commercial success? He would have then been lauded for taking a bold and daring step, you know? When an artist sticks to his guns and doesn't succeed, he's stubborn, if he does succeed he's tenacious. A poor boy is a dip-****, a rich boy is eccentric - same principal to me.
I saw the pictures from his exhibit in Germany, I guess, and the Old Fart At Play looked good. Sharp and comfortable, in his element. I would like to see how Jan is faring - a special person, that.
I'm glad that the Mighty Captain (as we called him) is having some well-deserved success with his art. I think, and have always thought, that it is brilliant. I hope you have the testes to print this.
Sincerely, Micheal Smotherman (Tragic Band keyboardist). |
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12-18-2010, 01:57 AM
|  | Total Hyper-Elite Member | | Join Date: May 2000 Location: Groom Lake, NV | | Smotherman is in this video at about 3:40.
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12-18-2010, 04:54 AM
| | | | Rest In Peace my good Captain. Nothing like putting on Captain Beefheart at a party to see who your friends really are.
There is great Beefheart mini series on YouTube by John Peel. | 
12-18-2010, 03:01 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Redford, MI | | | Mungi, if you can find and read anything by the original band members, you will find that much of what Mr. Smotherman says will sound familiar. Nothing was ever the Captian's fault. But they kept working for him, anyway.
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12-18-2010, 06:58 PM
|  | Basement Clef | | Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Below Ground, Detroit area | | | RIP Man. Cool music all around. Helps us realize that learning classics is good, throwing it all to the wind and trying different things is also essential.
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12-18-2010, 07:51 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: 97465 | | | the old fart was smart
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