Russia Propose Ban on Gay Propaganda

flypejose · #1 12-23-2011, 06:31 PM

Russia proposes ban on gay 'propaganda'

This is a sensitive topic but it helps to see it from another angle.

In this article, Russian legislators think the GLBT propaganda is detrimental for their society in general especially when it is directed toward children.

If you want to comment, please do so with substantial arguments and also post a short summary in addition to your links.

Pilgrim · #2 12-23-2011, 06:34 PM

Since Putin runs the country and he's an ex-spook and hard core, I'm not surprised.

flypejose · #3 12-23-2011, 06:38 PM

Hard core on what?

Kwesi · #4 12-23-2011, 06:39 PM

Holy balls, I haven't laughed this hard in like a whole 24 hours... I laugh a lot

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Kwesi · #5 12-23-2011, 06:43 PM

I'm still wondering exactly what qualifies a "propaganda aimed at children." Do gay guys and gals run around humping each other in front of minors in hopes of turning them to the dark side? Better yet, do they fire pelvic thrust-triggered gay lasers at children? Does the gay army need more rank-and-file foot soldiers to further their attempt to take over the world and make it fabulous? Yes, I know I'm having entirely too much fun with this post

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"It a thinly veiled attempt to legalize discrimination against LGBT people"

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That looks about right. I've got nothing against Russia but civil rights doesn't seem to be one of it's governments strong suits.

JAUQO III-X · #6 12-23-2011, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kwesi

Do gay guys and gals run around humping each other in front of minors in hopes of turning them to the dark side?

What do you mean by the dark side?

Makes it sound like being gay is evil.

totallyfrozen · #7 12-23-2011, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by flypejose

If you want to comment, please do so with substantial arguments...

Since when does anyone need a "substantial argument" to have an opinion?

Kwesi · #8 12-23-2011, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JAUQO III-X

What do you mean by the dark side?

Makes it sound like being gay is evil.

That's the point

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Might I add the the thread in general. I honestly don't believe that there is a "substantial" argument that can be made FOR this proposal. Looks like simple bigotry to me.

totallyfrozen · #9 12-23-2011, 07:04 PM

What I find interesting is that Russia (the former Soviet Union) is politically an atheist government yet they seem opposed to homosexuality. It seems their motivation is not from a religious basis.

Makes one wonder if it's simply matter of nature itself guiding our subconscious to know that it's wrong.

flypejose · #10 12-23-2011, 07:07 PM

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Since when does anyone need a "substantial argument" to have an opinion?

You don't need to substantiate your arguments with facts in order to have an opinion but when it comes to this kind of topic, mere opinion quickly degenerate to unnecessary fights!

Kwesi · #11 12-23-2011, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by totallyfrozen

What I find interesting is that Russia (the former Soviet Union) is politically an atheist government yet they seem opposed to homosexuality. It seems their motivation is not from a religious basis.

Makes one wonder if it's simply matter of nature itself guiding our subconscious to know that it's wrong.

I think it's just social stigma. Different = wrong in the eyes of many. Unfortunate, but that's how things are in so many instances. Also, a nation being politically atheist doesn't preclude it's government or it's people from superstition and irrationality.

GregC · #12 12-23-2011, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by flypejose

Russia proposes ban on gay 'propaganda'

This is a sensitive topic but it helps to see it from another angle.

In this article, Russian legislators think the GLBT propaganda is detrimental for their society in general especially when it is directed toward children.

If you want to comment, please do so with substantial arguments and also post a short summary in addition to your links.

How about you define what constitutes GBLT propaganda first? Russian lawmakers clearly haven't, and you keep using the word over and over.

flypejose · #13 12-23-2011, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by totallyfrozen

What I find interesting is that Russia (the former Soviet Union) is politically an atheist government yet they seem opposed to homosexuality. It seems their motivation is not from a religious basis.

Makes one wonder if it's simply matter of nature itself guiding our subconscious to know that it's wrong.

This is precisely why I chose the initial article. Unfortunately, as soon as one voice an opinion which is contrary to the GLBT usual position, the person is automatically viewed as religious. So by seeing the Russian example, hopefully one would start to ask the right questions and make a bit of research about that issue.

flypejose · #14 12-23-2011, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GregC

How about you define what constitutes GBLT propaganda first? Russian lawmakers clearly haven't, and you keep using the word over and over.

I am sure they have, but the article does not give any details unfortunately.

flypejose · #15 12-23-2011, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kwesi

I think it's just social stigma. Different = wrong in the eyes of many. Unfortunate, but that's how things are in so many instances. Also, a nation being politically atheist doesn't preclude it's government or it's people from superstition and irrationality.

At this point we are left to conjecture since the article do not list the reasons that motivated the Russians lawmakers but you might be surprised!

beside, they did not promote a ban on propaganda toward adults but toward children.

**bassistjoe93** · #16 12-23-2011, 07:23 PM

This is simply my opinion...

Since Russia is an atheist state, evolution/natural selection, etc seem to be the major schools of thought over there. Natural selection essentially comes down to passing on your genes through offspring=success. Homosexuals cannot reproduce naturally so its not a helpful lifestyle for the young population to see since no kids can be reproduced for the state's benefit when they get old enough to reproduce if a lot of them are homosexual. This is just my opinion and thoughts though...

**Eric Perry** · #17 12-23-2011, 07:23 PM

Oh jesus.

GregC · #18 12-23-2011, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by flypejose

I am sure they have, but the article does not give any details unfortunately.

Nor do you...

flypejose · #19 12-23-2011, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric Perry

Oh jesus.

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flypejose · #20 12-23-2011, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GregC

Nor do you...

Do you mean I did not explained why GLBT propaganda should not be directed to children or do you mean I did not did not add the information regarding the details about what motivated the Russian lawmakers? (sorry sometimes I need these type of clarifications since english is not my mother tongue)