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02-21-2010, 09:00 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lakeland, FL | | I saw that on the news this morning. I'm sure someone was getting some cheap thrills with this  |
02-21-2010, 09:05 AM
| | | | Wonder how wide spread the problem is? Makes me wonder is there is a hack that would allow almost anyone's web cam to be turned on? |
02-21-2010, 09:07 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: PA. | | | Cyber-peeping-tom much?
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02-21-2010, 09:24 AM
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02-21-2010, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by RWP Wonder how wide spread the problem is? Makes me wonder is there is a hack that would allow almost anyone's web cam to be turned on? | If it is what I think it is it isn't a hack. In my CCNA class we have had demonstrations on power-over-Ethernet turning on the webcam in the student's room. (he was giving the demonstration) These are school computers issued to students to use. If I am reading the article correctly. If this is the case then why wouldn't the school put in something to protect the laptop from getting stolen? Especially if one was missing.
Edit: The article states Apple computers were used. My first 2 comments apply to Windows-based computers. I am not sure about the Apple OS.
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02-21-2010, 09:52 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Canada. | | | Does anyone read what they post or what they comment on ?!
Rhetorical question.
The computers belong to the school. No hacks required. There is software installed onboard to enable this in order to find stolen computers.
Very glad I never went to a school where people had laptops, or cell phones. I can't imagine a bigger cluster#### wate of time with no learning going on.
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02-21-2010, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by SMASH Does anyone read what they post or what they comment on ?!
Rhetorical question.
The computers belong to the school. No hacks required. There is software installed onboard to enable this in order to find stolen computers.
Very glad I never went to a school where people had laptops, or cell phones. I can't imagine a bigger cluster#### wate of time with no learning going on. | I understand that this software was installed on these units and according to the article the kids signed a consent form explaining the web cam software. However, if this software is out there I am sure it could be installed on laptops without the users knowledge and used as a effective spy tool. The average person is oblivious as to how their computer works or what is actually happening to it. |
02-21-2010, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by SMASH Does anyone read what they post or what they comment on ?!
Rhetorical question.
The computers belong to the school. No hacks required. There is software installed onboard to enable this in order to find stolen computers.
Very glad I never went to a school where people had laptops, or cell phones. I can't imagine a bigger cluster#### wate of time with no learning going on. | Did YOU read the part about it being used 41 times for no reason?? |
02-21-2010, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by RWP
I understand that this software was installed on these units and according to the article the kids signed a consent form explaining the web cam software. However, if this software is out there I am sure it could be installed on laptops without the users knowledge and used as a effective spy tool. The average person is oblivious as to how their computer works or what is actually happening to it. |
Actually the article specifically states that the consent forms did NOT mention that software.
It also mentions that there is keystroke logging software, etc. that can be installed without spouses/employees/children's knowledge.
The average person is oblivious about a lot of things. it's nothing new.
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02-21-2010, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by FL Knifemaker Did YOU read the part about it being used 41 times for no reason?? |
No, nor does that have anything to do with the speculation about it being a hack.
I did read about it being used 42 times to recover "lost" or stolen computers, 28 times successfully. The "for no reason" part is purely conjecture and contrary to the statements by the "until proven guilty" parties.
I'm not condoning this, I'm just saying the articles clearly state why it was done and how. Until those are read, this thread makes it seem like the school is magically activating cams on personal home computers.
If kids spent more time learning than messing with text messaging and checking their Facebook pages on the free computers, they might have learned what a "Trojan Horse" is.
Oh well. Here's to conjecture and irony!
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02-21-2010, 10:51 AM
|  | Registered User | | | | "The Lower Merion School District has acknowledged remotely activating webcams 42 times to try to find missing, lost or stolen computers, which would include a loaner computer taken off campus against regulations."
I don't know much about computers, but isn't there software which can cause a laptop's Wi-Fi adapter to reference its GPS location with Google Earth and then relay the info to a system administrator upon demand?
'Beats taking taking pictures of kids in their bedrooms. |
02-21-2010, 10:51 AM
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When at home, boot the computer from a flash drive. Use a secure OS of your choice.
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Edit: The real surprise is that the school was ahead of the students on something involving computers. |
02-21-2010, 01:44 PM
| | | | Really seems like a waste of tax payers money providing laptops for school kids to take home anyway. |
02-21-2010, 01:50 PM
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02-21-2010, 02:16 PM
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02-21-2010, 02:53 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Plano, TX | | | The way they're busting kids for "sexting" these days, I wonder if any of the pics they got would qualify as kiddie porn. Could be a really interesting deal if school administrators get caught.
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02-21-2010, 03:06 PM
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02-21-2010, 03:17 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Where am I?!?!? | | Computer went missing, they cheked their 40 something computers via the webcam to see if a student had it, they found the laptop. They should know that it's a school computer and they can do whatever they want with it and most likely will moniter EVERYTHING. I don't really see a problem here besides the fact that they went for the webcam first , that part is kinda weird
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02-21-2010, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by daystcity Computer went missing, they cheked their 40 something computers via the webcam to see if a student had it, they found the laptop. They should know that it's a school computer and they can do whatever they want with it and most likely will moniter EVERYTHING. I don't really see a problem here besides the fact that they went for the webcam first , that part is kinda weird | Yeah, surely they would be better off with a GPS tracking system.
Although then some idiots would kick up a fuss and say its an invasion of privacy.
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