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10-13-2008, 02:43 PM
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Is shame a useful tool in teaching repentance and remorse ? I think remorse is something that comes from within ones own conscience so I dont know how since it coudl be with external shame.
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10-13-2008, 02:46 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC | | | No...I believe teaching the love of God is the best method of teaching repentence. |
10-13-2008, 02:49 PM
|  | The Lowdown Diggler | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Huntington Beach, CA | | | No. You don't want to shame a kid. You want to create an environment that allows student to learn. This includes giving them room to make mistakes. |
10-13-2008, 02:51 PM
| | A Hard Rockin Lover of GREENBURST Moderator | | Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Where I lay my head is home | | | Is there a useful place for shame in our society ?
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10-13-2008, 02:51 PM
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10-13-2008, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JNowiski  as long as the shame isn't directed towards me. | That's funny.
I don't think shame is a useful tool because it causes a person to feel less of themselves. |
10-13-2008, 03:07 PM
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10-13-2008, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Will On Bass
I don't think shame is a useful tool because it causes a person to feel less of themselves. | That's funny. That's exactly how the United States Government makes me feel everyday.
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10-13-2008, 03:21 PM
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10-13-2008, 03:51 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Kansas City | | | Repentance and remorse are not taught. They are traits which develop naturally and are reinforced through example.
With sufficient bad parenting, they can be trained out of a kid. Which is indeed shameful. |
10-13-2008, 03:55 PM
| | | | i think that God is the ultimate life changer and guidance to repentance
i think when we sin we have shame and that just shows us that we have a need to change
but if you were to use shame, you would need to add hope near the end of it
dont just leave it at shame
help them get out of what they are into
hope this helps
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10-13-2008, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MatticusMania Are you just trying to get answers for a sociology quiz? | haha nice
im taking that this year and we have learned a lot about stuff like that
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10-13-2008, 06:51 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: atlanta, georgia [satellites] | | | i would say yes, especially if it is a kid. make the little brat ashamed, then point out what he/she will do to repay and to repent, make them chop wood when it is 10 degrees. that will learn them. |
10-13-2008, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Will On Bass No...I believe teaching the love of God is the best method of teaching repentence. | I call BS. The fear of God, or rather the fear of damnation, is a much larger factor in religious repentence. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Luke 13:3 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish. | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. | Cake or Death!!
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10-13-2008, 07:06 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ireland | | | A lack of hope and some brainwashing usually brings about repentance
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10-13-2008, 07:11 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lincolnshire, UK | | | For one who is devoid of faith in God repentance is all the more sincere. I do not seek repentance because my sins will send me to damnation. Rather I repent because I have compromised by own moral code, I do not seek to avoid a hell nor to gain admitance into the afterlife. I do not wish to be loved by a god but rather to respect myself.
I do not feel shame, I only know when I have done wrong. |
10-13-2008, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by JNowiski That's funny. That's exactly how the United States Government makes me feel everyday. | LOL...that is funny. |
10-13-2008, 07:42 PM
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Is shame a useful tool in teaching repentance and remorse?
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Yes. It is the most useful tool.
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10-13-2008, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDarkReaver I call BS. The fear of God, or rather the fear of damnation, is a much larger factor in religious repentence.
Cake or Death!! | True in "religious repentance" it is. I'm talking about a true "relationship" with God though. If you're in a true relationship with Him (God) you repent out of your love for Him and the sacrifice His son Jesus made for you. You don't repent out of fear. Fear is a by-product of religion not relationship.
BTW...what kind of cake are we talking about because I had this Baskin-Robins Chocolate Chip Ice Cream cake that was To Die For! LOL |
10-13-2008, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDarkReaver I do not wish to be loved by a god but rather to respect myself. | That could mean that you sir are your own god. LOL | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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