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06-01-2011, 04:42 PM
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06-01-2011, 04:48 PM
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06-01-2011, 04:51 PM
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06-01-2011, 05:02 PM
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Was a great player back in the day, but being over 7ft certainly helps!
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06-01-2011, 05:07 PM
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06-01-2011, 05:08 PM
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06-01-2011, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MatticusMania Now he as more time to roll with Miami PD! | He may have to take some time off from crime fighting. Heard him say today that he is working on a PhD. Who knew? 
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06-01-2011, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by i_got_a_mohawk Though he already had to be honest!
Was a great player back in the day, but being over 7ft certainly helps! | Even more important, he was over 300 lbs. athletic. I remember seeing him at an exhibition around 1998, and he made other 6' 10" or 7" men look like children!
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He may have to take some time off from crime fighting. Heard him say today that he is working on a PhD. Who knew?  | He already has an MA.
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06-01-2011, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TJ55 He may have to take some time off from crime fighting. Heard him say today that he is working on a PhD. Who knew?  | I was hoping he'd bring his STEEL costume out of retirement and become a vigilante... 
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06-01-2011, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Cheese He already has an MA. | So you knew. 
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06-01-2011, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Cheese Even more important, he was over 300 lbs. athletic. I remember seeing him at an exhibition around 1998, and he made other 6' 10" or 7" men look like children! | It's one of those things where I find it hard to grasp the weight a guy should be at that height. But aye, he was built, which must have helped, even in a sport that doesn't classically require it!
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06-01-2011, 05:16 PM
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06-01-2011, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Cheese Even more important, he was over 300 lbs. athletic. I remember seeing him at an exhibition around 1998, and he made other 6' 10" or 7" men look like children! | Right. He was WAY more athletic than Yao Ming could ever hope to be.
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06-01-2011, 07:03 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oak Park, MI | | | He was a great player and a decent guy. A bit playful as an interview, he rarely showed what I would call a killer instinct. I always wondered what he could have been, but he was a great natural talent who wasn't obsessed with himself. The advantage he had physically over most of his opponents in his prime was almost unfair.
I remember when Dumars took over the Pistons as a DM, and he talked about in building the team to have the team ready in the post Shaq era (an admission that no one could beat the Kolbe-Shaq Lakers). Ironically it was those very Pistons that ended up ending that dynasty prematurely. And a barely 6'7" Ben Wallace clearly out played Shaq in that series. I do have to wonder a bit about the feud between Kolbe and Shaq.
I wouldn't say he stayed too long when healthy he still contributed a bit due to the dearth of quality bigs still in the NBA. And while for the most part he wasn't a driven Superstar, but he wasn't soft, and he wasn't a selfish player.
I would rate him in the top five all time of big men.
1) Bill Russell
2) Wilt Chamberlin
3) Kareem Abdul Jabbar
4) Shaq
5) Akeem Olajiwhan (Akeem was a better all around player- but his prime didn't last as long)
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06-01-2011, 09:20 PM
| | | | Never liked him, but can't argue with 4 rings and all those stats.
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06-01-2011, 09:29 PM
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06-01-2011, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by blendermassacre Right. He was WAY more athletic than Yao Ming could ever hope to be. | Can't tell if you are being serious.
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06-01-2011, 09:36 PM
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06-01-2011, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by basstotheface Can't tell if you are being serious. | It's not even a comparison between who was the more athletic big man when they were both in their respective primes. Shaq wins hands down.
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