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09-07-2009, 10:55 AM
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Obviously, I was not there, but Merriman's story is plausible. I just think that Merriman must have been asleep during the rookie workshop on making good decisions. Tila Tequila, IMO, has trouble written all over her. A starlet with nothing really going on for her but a nice body is a recipe for trouble when it comes to a player like Merriman, who seems to be a trouble magnet. She has everything to gain from a controversy, while he can potentially maim his career. 
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09-07-2009, 11:11 AM
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09-07-2009, 12:28 PM
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09-07-2009, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jazzbo Some of these comments are sick and ridiculous. I know that people are trying to be cheeky, but let's do it with something else besides violence, and particularly violence against women. I understand that fans of the team want him back to play, and I understand that the woman in question probably has a particular reputation, but we're still talking about the potential of abuse. And while we don't know the facts, the odds are this story was borne of something, and who knows what that is.
So grow the **** up, because the humor is immature and disgusting. | The fact of the matter is that an arrest for domestic violence can take place with very, very little evidence. Merriman has been in trouble before, but I don't know of him being particularly violent. Also, the woman in question is a marginal celebrity who could use an incident to generate interest, sell a few calendars or posters, or get a few more paid appearances. Merriman, could be guilty, as accused, but I also think that his trying to keep a drunk woman, who came to his house from driving (something for which he could be legally culpable, depending on what California state law says) is a very believable possibility too.
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09-07-2009, 01:00 PM
|  | One lab accident away from being a supervillain | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Powder Springs, Ga | | | From what I read, it sounded like he was guilty of nothing more than poor decision making. I'm sure more will be revealed in time but I'm tempted to believe his story.
Keep in mind that in these situations the police are required to take the man to jail if the woman accuses him of violence -- even if it is pretty obvious that she's lying.
*Edit: yeah, what the good Dr. said.
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09-07-2009, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Cheese Merriman, could be guilty, as accused, but I also think that his trying to keep a drunk woman, who came to his house from driving (something for which he could be legally culpable, depending on what California state law says) is a very believable possibility too. | The article I read stated that Tila "Tequila" Nguyen has a documented allergy to alcohol and can't drink so at face value Merriman's statement seems to be flawed. Now, she could have been under the influence of something else, or he could simply have been abusive. We'll have to see if more facts come to light.
But if he abused her then he should be punished to the full extent of the law, something that rarely seems to happen when big name athletes are involved. And if it turns out that she was making false allegations, then she should be punished to the full extent of the law, which is also something that rarely happens when big name athletes are involved. | 
09-07-2009, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Jared Lash The article I read stated that Tila "Tequila" Nguyen has a documented allergy to alcohol and can't drink so at face value Merriman's statement seems to be flawed. Now, she could have been under the influence of something else, or he could simply have been abusive. We'll have to see if more facts come to light.
But if he abused her then he should be punished to the full extent of the law, something that rarely seems to happen when big name athletes are involved. And if it turns out that she was making false allegations, then she should be punished to the full extent of the law, which is also something that rarely happens when big name athletes are involved. | I wasn't there, but back to my original point, Merriman should have left her butt at the club, and he wouldn't have this headache. 
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09-07-2009, 01:15 PM
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That aside, what the Sporting News fails to report is that Merriman wasn't arrested by the police. When the police arrived to the scene they found ZERO evidence of wrongdoing. Nguyen put Merriman under citizen's arrest, signed the appropriate documents and only at that point did the police take him into custody.
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09-07-2009, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Cheese I wasn't there, but back to my original point, Merriman should have left her butt at the club, and he wouldn't have this headache.  | Yes and no. If she is making false accusations or this is a misunderstanding, he said/she said situation where the truth is in the middle or an isolated incident then sure.
But if he really is a man who abuses women then it would have come to light eventually, maybe with a worse outcome and probably without the added press coverage of having a pseudo celebrity victim.
Again, I don't know. | 
09-07-2009, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jazzbo Some of these comments are sick and ridiculous. I know that people are trying to be cheeky, but let's do it with something else besides violence, and particularly violence against women. I understand that fans of the team want him back to play, and I understand that the woman in question probably has a particular reputation, but we're still talking about the potential of abuse. And while we don't know the facts, the odds are this story was borne of something, and who knows what that is.
So grow the **** up, because the humor is immature and disgusting. | This statement made no sense to me. Why do the odds favor anything in your opinion?
Granted, a lie is "something" so if that's your point, I guess I missed it. | 
09-07-2009, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jared Lash Yes and no. If she is making false accusations or this is a misunderstanding, he said/she said situation where the truth is in the middle or an isolated incident then sure.
But if he really is a man who abuses women then it would have come to light eventually, maybe with a worse outcome and probably without the added press coverage of having a pseudo celebrity victim.
Again, I don't know. | Fair enough. My gut tells me the accusation sounds fishy, but I just don't know. Someone else's gut may tell them I'm a terrorist for all I know. 
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09-07-2009, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Cheese Fair enough. My gut tells me the accusation sounds fishy, but I just don't know. | Certainly could be a false allegation which is something that makes me really angry. Not only does it make real victims less likely to be believed and/or come forward but it leaves a stain on an innocent man that doesn't wash off easily.
I remember when Chris Webber and Juwan Howard were accused by a woman at a party of sexually assaulting her. The claim ended up being fake but the retraction didn't get a fraction of the media attention that the accusation did. Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. Cheese Someone else's gut may tell them I'm a terrorist for all I know.  | I know I've always thought that you were part of a sleeper cell planning a jihad against 6 string basses. | 
09-07-2009, 04:11 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, CA | | | I did some reading and apparently throughout the last week or two she frequently bragged on her twitter account about being hungover and/or posting drunk. Granted, these are comments picked up on other, less reputable news sources, but it would appear that within the last 24 hours all of her statements regarding her drinking have been taken down.
I've also read that her MTV reality show had multiple episodes that featured her drinking as part of the show. So much for a "well documented alcohol allergy".
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09-07-2009, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Cheese Fair enough. My gut tells me the accusation sounds fishy, but I just don't know. Someone else's gut may tell them I'm a terrorist for all I know.  | Normally I tend to believe the women in these kind of cases, but I tend to agree with you on this one. Shawn Merriman is a big boy, Tilla is a very petite girl. I suspect if there was real violence, that LE (who are trained to be really sensitive to this stuff) would have seen physical evidence and acted without her prompting. In other words where is the evidence. This is obviously not Bobby Brown and Rihanna.
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09-07-2009, 07:22 PM
|  | Registered User Endorsing artist: Brubaker Guitars | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Gaithersburg, Md | | I don't tend to believe either sex in these situations. I like to look at whatever evidence is presented.
The fact that the police reported intoxification of the alcohol-allergic person doesn't exactly help her case IMO. And if this guy is choking her without leaving a mark for the officers to observe...  | 
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09-07-2009, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jazzbo So grow the **** up, because the humor is immature and disgusting. | Other points aside, that's a little ironic.
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09-07-2009, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by burk48237 This is obviously not Bobby Brown and Rihanna. |
Wrong generation. Chris Brown.
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09-08-2009, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Cheese Wrong generation. Chris Brown. | oops! 
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