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11-18-2008, 11:44 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Northern Virginia | | | should one tell one's boss when one is "looking around"?
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So, I've been interviewing internally for other positions. Today one of the hiring managers asked one if one wanted her to let one's manager know one was "looking around". One said "no", but then one thought there might be possible benefits for this, especially when one is overutilized. This may induce in one's boss the fear of losing one if his important resources and may cause him to rethink one's benefits package, more importantly remuneration. But then again, if one ends up not being hired for the other manager, there may be negative repercussions, namely, one may not be considered as an important part of future projects, especially with the 09 planning and 08 evaluations happening right now.
What do you think?
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11-18-2008, 11:48 AM
|  | Online | | Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sunapee, New Hampshire | | | I do tell my current manager/boss.
I see both sides of the coin, and how it could hurt you at your current position. My wife let her boss know she was interested in another position. When a promotion came up in her department, my wife was overlooked for not having commitment to the team.
I've had it work in my favor as you describe. I told my boss I was looking one time, and he asked what it would take for me to stop looking.
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11-18-2008, 11:50 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: somewhere in middle America | | | I probably wouldn't tell a boss, but sometimes feeding the rumor mill can assist in bosses treating ya a little better. | 
11-18-2008, 11:51 AM
|  | I fling carrots | | Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Make a left at the Taco Bell | | I think there was too many "one's" in that story and my head is about to explode! 
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11-18-2008, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by wilser So, I've been interviewing internally for other positions. Today one of the hiring managers asked one if one wanted her to let one's manager know one was "looking around". One said "no", but then one thought there might be possible benefits for this, especially when one is overutilized. This may induce in one's boss the fear of losing one if his important resources and may cause him to rethink one's benefits package, more importantly remuneration. But then again, if one ends up not being hired for the other manager, there may be negative repercussions, namely, one may not be considered as an important part of future projects, especially with the 09 planning and 08 evaluations happening right now.
What do you think? | Some places, loyalty goes a long way, others not so much. I've had it work out for me in the past. Just be cautious and honest with your Boss, tell him or her your reasons for looking around, but keep in mind if your problem is the situation and not the salary, then that's what you need to change...
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11-18-2008, 12:12 PM
|  | The Lowdown Diggler | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Huntington Beach, CA | | | If it's internally it's bound to get back to your boss. Might as well tell him. If it's outside of the company, then don't tell him/her anything until your in the position to accept a job offer. | 
11-18-2008, 12:21 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dupont, PA | | | In a place where you are very much in demand it can work in your favor.
I threatened to leave and take my employee with me and we both got our salaries raised substantially.
Then in another company, I let it be known I was going and there was no counter offer or anything.
Sometimes there is no way to compensate for what an employee wants and what a company can do.
Usually it's best to negotiate after you've already secured and accepted another position. Otherwise, it's just like crying wolf if you don't get what you want and stay regardless.
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11-18-2008, 01:07 PM
|  | A Hard Rockin Lover of GREENBURST Moderator | | Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Where I lay my head is home | | | This is a big no - no in the Priesthood. You will never find yourself more isolated or shuned in any other "profession".
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11-18-2008, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MAJOR METAL This is a big no - no in the Priesthood. You will never find yourself more isolated or shuned in any other "profession". | Hmm. Glad you said something. I was going to tell the bishop that I like being priest at my church but that I'd get a better dental plan being a rabbi. I'll just keep it on the DL until it's official. A sheynem dank and bless you my son.
I see very little upside to telling your boss you are looking for another position unless (a) he/she has the ability and willingness to help you get it (b) will definitely find out you are looking as in that case it's best if you tell them or (c) you know losing you will hurt and you like/respect your boss enough to give them a heads up.
But in the vast majority of cases it will either have no effect or actually hurt you.
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11-18-2008, 01:27 PM
| | | | NO! I've seen too many promotions get torpedoed. And I agree with MJ5150's comment: If/when something 'nice' comes up internally...you'll get passed over 'cause you're leaving soon anyway.
A 2-weeks' notice after it's a done deal, though, is a must...unless you're into the scorched Earth method of leaving an old job behind.
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11-18-2008, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MakiSupaStar If it's internally it's bound to get back to your boss. Might as well tell him. If it's outside of the company, then don't tell him/her anything until your in the position to accept a job offer. | Agreed.
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11-18-2008, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric618 I think there was too many "one's" in that story and my head is about to explode!  | +1 I'm still not sure who was saying what to whom. | 
11-18-2008, 05:12 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Coeur d'Alene | | | My boss is awesome. I tell him almost every time I apply for a job.
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11-18-2008, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MakiSupaStar If it's internally it's bound to get back to your boss. Might as well tell him. If it's outside of the company, then don't tell him/her anything until your in the position to accept a job offer. | plus one
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11-18-2008, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MakiSupaStar If it's internally it's bound to get back to your boss. Might as well tell him. If it's outside of the company, then don't tell him/her anything until your in the position to accept a job offer. | Most places have a corporate policy that you have to inform your supervisor if you're applying for another job in the company. If you don't, you could actually lost your eligibility for the new position.
Also, if you tell _anyone_ at your job that you're applying for an external job, it WILL get to your boss. It doesn't matter who you tell or how much you trust them. Nothing is private in most workplaces. | 
11-18-2008, 09:12 PM
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with the one.
Best not to change that.
If you disregard the one, better have a real solid lock on the
two and the four. Syncopate and work on your finest dance
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11-18-2008, 11:19 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Finland (Northern Europe) | | | Hi.
Honesty and openness won't keep You warm and your belly full, but neither does burning bridges.
I'd tell my boss.
Just my 0.02€
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