Should The US Goverment Use Pit Bulls as Bait?

[JAUQO III-X]

http://www.browardpalmbeach.com/2010...-to-the-fight/


And there is no need at all to mention Mike Vick in this thread.

[superfunk47]

I honestly couldn't make it more than a couple paragraphs in.

I can't even think about what I think of that. It's just too sick.

[Hoover]

Originally Posted by JAUQO III-X

And there is no need at all to mention Mike Vick in this thread.

I believe that is referred to as a "Strange Loop Paradox", no?

[Mark Latimour]

Using pitbulls for bait?

I think they're gonna need a bigger boat.

[Relic]

desperate times call for desperate measures..

[MJ5150]

I can see why Bacon would be upset. It did go on too long, as this quote from the article says....."Altogether the investigation targeted 107 suspects. Eleven of those escaped prosecution on misdemeanor charges of spectating at a dogfight because the probe extended beyond the statute of limitations."

-Mike

[MakiSupaStar]

Originally Posted by Mark Latimour

Using pitbulls for bait?

I think they're gonna need a bigger boat.

Actually, on Reunion Island and the Seychelles in the Indian Ocean they use stray dogs as bait to troll for sharks. It's been on the radar of the Humane Society for awhile now.

I remember reading about it, but this is all I can find on that right now.
http://www.viddler.com/explore/SavePups/videos/1/

[Mark Latimour]

Originally Posted by MakiSupaStar

Actually, on Reunion Island and the Seychelles in the Indian Ocean they use stray dogs as bait to troll for sharks. It's been on the radar of the Humane Society for awhile now.

I remember reading about it, but this is all I can find on that right now.
http://www.viddler.com/explore/SavePups/videos/1/

Well, if you're going to use any dog as bait, I think a pit bull would be the most appropriate.

[Jim Nazium]

I vote "no". Find another way to bust the criminals, one that doesn't involve subjecting another dog to the same treatment. Would you bust a child prostitution ring by pimping out your 12 year old daughter, saying the end justifies the means?

[KsToaDangr]

training pitbulls to fight and then letting them...can the cops be charged with committing the same crime that they are trying to stop? yes, they can. should they? yes. will they be charged? nope.

[CrispyDelicious]

Seems like a convoluted way to go about convicting a bunch of people. Why not just use a hidden video camera to record the fights?

[Mr. Pickles]

...googling Strange Loop Paradox...fascinating.

funnily enough, I passed over Godel, Escher, Bach yesterday in B&N in favor of Wallace's Infinite Jest. Def. going to read I am a Strange Loop next.

I <3 TB.

[Eric Perry]

I hate pits, and think Denver County did it right by banning them from the entire county.

That being said, I think using them as "bait" is nothing short of disgusting.

[JAUQO III-X]

This is how the majority of the cases turn out.

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairba...g_fighting.php

[Mark Latimour]

To my mind this falls under the same debate as whether the Government should be allowed to use torture to get information out of suspects where they think there is a larger public benefit to it than the pain suffered by the suspect (and of course, the debate about what forms of information coercsion constitute torture verus just coerscion). At the end of the day it comes down to whether the state can engage in an activity that would otherwise be illegal in order to prevent a larger criminal undertaking. I think the line is hard to draw, but training dogs for fights and then having them engage in fights seems over the line to me.

[Rebecky]

The law against dog fighting is there to protect animals... This is clearly doing the opposite! I understand they need to catch these people somehow, but it's just not fair on the very animals that need help the most. There must be better ways.

[Ziltoid]

Currently reading page 3 of the initial link, I don't know how far I'll make it, sickening crap.

[Fretless1!]

Originally Posted by Jim Nazium

I vote "no". Find another way to bust the criminals, one that doesn't involve subjecting another dog to the same treatment. Would you bust a child prostitution ring by pimping out your 12 year old daughter, saying the end justifies the means?

Amen.

[MakiSupaStar]

Yeah, as much as I'm against dog fighting, and the abuse of dogs, I don't see how their tactics can be justified. In an odd way, the cops seem kind of smug about it and it almost seems like they enjoyed the whole investigation.

[MJ5150]

The undercover agents had a total of 40 dogs at the peak of the investigation. The article says a "number" of them died or had to be put down from injuries and such.

-Mike