Sickening

Kwesi · #1 03-31-2011, 03:07 PM

Alleged Drunk Driver Still Has License After Oct. Crash | wusa9.com

Drunk driver with a BAC of over two times the legal limit KILLS TWO PEOPLE and not only still has his license but faces anywhere from 3 months to 8 years for his charges. ONLY 3 MONTHS TO 8 YEARS!

How do these people slip through the cracks

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Muusers · #2 03-31-2011, 03:10 PM

Well, 8 years is pretty long. Besides, think about it, he gets a record. So actually a prison sentence, no matter how long, screws you for life.

Fassa Albrecht · #3 03-31-2011, 03:14 PM

Over here there was a drug dealer arrested, charged and found guilty of posession with intent to supply. He had:

90g (about 3.2oz) of cocaine
90g of PURE crystal meth
90g of heroin
100 Ecstacy tablets
3 binliners of marijuana

He got let off...no jail sentence, not even a big fine. He's free to deal again.

Kwesi · #4 03-31-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Muusers

Well, 8 years is pretty long. Besides, think about it, he gets a record. So actually a prison sentence, no matter how long, screws you for life.

I get what you're saying but 8 years for running two people down while under the influence of alcohol, checking to see if they were dead and then driving off? This guy hasn't even lost his license! He needs to be put away for much longer than 8 years.

Von Felgenhauer · #5 03-31-2011, 03:15 PM

And here my license gets revoked for 5 years for not paying my tickets

i_got_a_mohawk · #6 03-31-2011, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Muusers

Well, 8 years is pretty long. Besides, think about it, he gets a record. So actually a prison sentence, no matter how long, screws you for life.

Two people died, he has physically destroyed at least two lives, and how many others (familiy, friends?).

8 years isnt too long . . .

Fassa Albrecht · #7 03-31-2011, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kwesi

I get what you're saying but 8 years for running two people down while under the influence of alcohol, checking to see if they were dead and then driving off? This guy hasn't even lost his license! He needs to be put away for much longer than 8 years.

Life imprisonment would do the trick just nicely....he's essentially guilty of vehicular homicide.

i_got_a_mohawk · #8 03-31-2011, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Fassa Albrecht

Over here there was a drug dealer arrested, charged and found guilty of posession with intent to supply. He had:

90g (about 3.2oz) of cocaine
90g of PURE crystal meth
90g of heroin
100 Ecstacy tablets
3 binliners of marijuana

He got let off...no jail sentence, not even a big fine. He's free to deal again.

But the poor cherub was probably on benifits, came from a broken home and didnt know any better

Relic · #9 03-31-2011, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by i_got_a_mohawk

Two people died, he has physically destroyed at least two lives, and how many others (familiy, friends?).

8 years isnt too long . . .

Yep.

This is just unbelievable.

Fassa Albrecht · #10 03-31-2011, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by i_got_a_mohawk

But the poor cherub was probably on benifits, came from a broken home and didnt know any better

We should have a similar drugs policy to Thailand...

Muusers · #11 03-31-2011, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kwesi

I get what you're saying but 8 years for running two people down while under the influence of alcohol, checking to see if they were dead and then driving off? This guy hasn't even lost his license! He needs to be put away for much longer than 8 years.

I don't know. Studies have shown time and time again that long sentences do nothing to people's way of thinking and behaving. Yet rehabilitation, psychology sessions and whatnot are much more effective. Then again, maybe I'm too progressive/left wing.

Before you respond, let's not make this political.

Unrepresented · #12 03-31-2011, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Fassa Albrecht

Life imprisonment would do the trick just nicely....he's essentially guilty of vehicular homicide.

50% more lives wasted! Sweet!

tastybasslines · #13 03-31-2011, 03:49 PM

The problem kwesi, especially if it is a first offense, is that it is not premeditated and there is no prior so you can't really say that "you've done this before"...

Kwesi · #14 03-31-2011, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Muusers

I don't know. Studies have shown time and time again that long sentences do nothing to people's way of thinking and behaving. Yet rehabilitation, psychology sessions and whatnot are much more effective. Then again, maybe I'm too progressive/left wing.

Before you respond, let's not make this political.

Don't, I'm not interested in having my thread shut down. Seems like a lot of thread gets trapped into a political discussion lately though.

I want to support rehab but when I comes to stuff like this I just want some kind of severe punishment. Call me a spiteful person but some people need to be beat repeatedly with bats.

Hawaii Islander · #15 03-31-2011, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Muusers

I don't know. Studies have shown time and time again that long sentences do nothing to people's way of thinking and behaving. Yet rehabilitation, psychology sessions and whatnot are much more effective. Then again, maybe I'm too progressive/left wing.

Before you respond, let's not make this political.

You're looking at fixing a problem where others are focusing on punishment. Reasonable punishment and rehabilitation/treatment would be a powerful combination in my view. Probably would be less costly in the long run too.

Kwesi · #16 03-31-2011, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tastybasslines

The problem kwesi, especially if it is a first offense, is that it is not premeditated and there is no prior so you can't really say that "you've done this before"...

I know that legally but I don't care if it was Jesus behind the wheel, if he did what this sob did I want some kind of justice handed out. This is the kind of crap that drives good people to do crazy things. Something terrible happens and the law drags their feet. Don't get me wrong, I'm a (mostly) law abiding citizen but I just can't accept that nothing can be done about this guy

MJ5150 · #17 03-31-2011, 03:53 PM

Ask Leonard Little how he did it. He killed a woman while driving drunk, and all he got was 90 days in jail, probation and community service.

-Mike

Skitch it! · #18 03-31-2011, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Fassa Albrecht

Over here there was a drug dealer arrested, charged and found guilty of posession with intent to supply. He had:

90g (about 3.2oz) of cocaine
90g of PURE crystal meth
90g of heroin
100 Ecstacy tablets
3 binliners of marijuana

He got let off...no jail sentence, not even a big fine. He's free to deal again.

The way that deal is cut, is by supplying police with information, about your competition ; )

Muusers · #19 03-31-2011, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawaii Islander

You're looking at fixing a problem where others are focusing on punishment. Reasonable punishment and rehabilitation/treatment would be a powerful combination in my view. Probably would be less costly in the long run too.

That's what we do around these parts. Though it does have its problems too since people can be too naive with detainees.

totallyfrozen · #20 03-31-2011, 03:58 PM

I think the most disturbing thing, Kwesi, is that maybe NOBODY slipped through the cracks. Maybe that's what the system considers "justice".

I knew a guy up here in Alaska who got 8 years in prison for poaching a moose. Eight years for killing two humans while in the act of already breaking another law? Justice? Somethings wrong somewhere.