So if marijuana becomes legal tomorrow in California...

Metal Matt · #1 01-11-2010, 05:00 PM

Article here

...do we get to talk about it here on Talkbass the same way we can talk about alcohol or cigarettes?

mike_v_s · #2 01-11-2010, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Metal Matt

Article here

...do we get to talk about it here on Talkbass the same way we can talk about alcohol or cigarettes?

Damn. Now this is a conundrum. I've been a firm believer in Danial Tosh's stance that marijuana should be legalized to shut people up, but here we face the prospect of the exact opposite happening. I'm gonna go drink a fine beer and possibly start smoking again while I think this over.

Mike

MatticusMania · #3 01-11-2010, 05:09 PM

Whats there to talk about? I think its mentioned plenty, albeit in more subtle ways, as it is.

kissmybASS01 · #4 01-11-2010, 05:12 PM

Somehow, I think it will become legalized up here in Canada before the Unites States. Probably spearheaded by British Columbia, IMO

SoonerMatt · #5 01-11-2010, 05:14 PM

If this happens it'll mean an increase in botany funding nation-wide. Meaning I will be eligible to earn more money in my lifetime. DO WANT.

ugly_bassplayer · #6 01-11-2010, 05:14 PM

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Somehow, I think it will become legalized up here in Canada before the Unites States. Probably spearheaded by British Columbia, IMO

I think Quebec is pretty much the same as BC.
IMO

iamlowsound · #7 01-11-2010, 05:15 PM

I guess Arnie just wants to relive his body building days without going to the gym.

lowsound

Metal Matt · #8 01-11-2010, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mike_v_s

Damn. Now this is a conundrum. I've been a firm believer in Danial Tosh's stance that marijuana should be legalized to shut people up, but here we face the prospect of the exact opposite happening. I'm gonna go drink a fine beer and possibly start smoking again while I think this over.

Mike

Honestly, there's nothing super exciting to talk about with it.* I guess discussions about how it affects your playing and writing abilities on bass could be interesting though. Stuff like that. Just recently a thread was shut down that was about that very topic.

There could be a Marijuana club and you could talk about different strains like everyone talks about different beers (it really is that different). Doesn't look good on paper, but who knows, could be alright?

but you know, I'm just sayin', if that vote goes through tomorrow could we start a TB Marijuana Club?

*Ironic I say there's nothing exciting about weed talk, yet here I am talking about it already. Damn.

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Originally Posted by MatticusMania

I think its mentioned plenty, albeit in more subtle ways, as it is.

True...

Steve · #9 01-11-2010, 05:25 PM

I was born in Atlantic City Hospital but, even that wouldn't make me move back to Jersey.

Funny though, it wasn't but a week ago I was watching that Pot growing special on the Discovery Channel and I looked at my wife and said, "Honey, I sh#t you not. If they ever legalize that stuff in Florida, I'm cashing in the 401K and opening up a supply clinic."

And I was serious as a heart attack.

Absentia · #10 01-11-2010, 05:50 PM

You'll still get arrested by the FEDs.

Munjibunga · #11 01-11-2010, 05:53 PM

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You'll still get arrested by the FEDs.

That's correct. Besides, I don't see legalization happening any time soon.

Bob Lee (QSC) · #12 01-11-2010, 05:58 PM

… for one thing, it'll be just in time for NAMM.

Metal Matt · #13 01-11-2010, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve

I was born in Atlantic City Hospital but, even that wouldn't make me move back to Jersey.

Funny though, it wasn't but a week ago I was watching that Pot growing special on the Discovery Channel and I looked at my wife and said, "Honey, I sh#t you not. If they ever legalize that stuff in Florida, I'm cashing in the 401K and opening up a supply clinic."

And I was serious as a heart attack.

I grew and sold last year to friends, and friends of friends, and it helped pay some of our bills as my dad is out of a job and there's no more work in the steel industry, which is what he's done his whole life. My crappy job (ice cream truck driver, go figure. And no... I absolutely would never smoke while working.) isn't going to help with much. So I grew and sold, my parents knew, didn't care as my dad has smoked to help get over his alcoholism and my mom smokes it occasionally because of arthritis in her spine and knees, and she said it helps more than any vicodin or other pain pill does. It's a risk, growing and selling, sure, but screw it. I see absolutely nothing wrong with it. There are people that have moved out to California to go to "Oaksterdam" University, to learn about growing pot because there are no jobs in their area. I don't feel a single bit bad or guilty that I grew/sold as I know it's far safer than alcohol and cigarettes and I know a lot of the country is realizing it too. We could also be saving BILLIONS that are being spent on anti-pot police task forces, and then by regulating and taxing it like we do alcohol and cigarettes, it would make back billions, and create lots of new jobs. Kind of sounds good for our economy, right?

Also, because the black market is an unregulated one, it's currently far easier for kids and teens to get a hold of pot than it is alcohol. You want to keep it from kids and teens? Treat it like alcohol, set an age limit. (I'd be fine with 21)

And thing is I'm not some scumbag criminal or anything like that, granted I'm not the most productive member of society by any means, but I'm no criminal. Unfortunately that image of stoner=terrible criminal won't be shaken off for a long time, no matter what the law is. It's the same reason it's taken so long for people to become accepting of tattoos and piercings (especially stretched, large gauge piercings and tattoos that cover huge parts of your body).

But stoners also have what will be another hard stereotype to shake off... that we're stupid lazy morons that know nothing so, this post may very well be pure fallacy for all my currently stoned mind knows..

jomahu · #14 01-11-2010, 06:09 PM

Federal law > state law. so, methinks not.

i wish MA would get on the bong- uh, ball with this issue....

Metal Matt · #15 01-11-2010, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Absentia

You'll still get arrested by the FEDs.

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Originally Posted by Munjibunga

That's correct. Besides, I don't see legalization happening any time soon.

Actually, President Obama has already told the feds to stop going after patients and suppliers in states where medical marijuana is legal.* So, I'm sure that would also extend to if it where just 100% legal, for both recreational and medical use. I think there's a very good chance it'll be legalized in California tomorrow. Then again I honestly don't know what kind of opposition there is to it over there, so I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Article.*

blendermassacre · #16 01-11-2010, 06:12 PM

I really hate this discussion. It's like every pot head in America thinks that if they legalize pot, they'll be able to smoke on street corners and still buy from their cousin. It will be taxed out the butt hole, and probably not legal to do outside of bars. Once at the University of Arkansas, I saw a debate between a former DEA agent and the creator of High times and it was laughable watching the creator of high times try and defend the " it's my religion, and damn the man" part of his argument.

SpamBot · #17 01-11-2010, 06:14 PM

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I'm not the most productive member of society by any means, but I'm no criminal.

You grow pot. It is against the law. Therefore, it is a crime. Therefore, you are a criminal.

Metal Matt · #18 01-11-2010, 06:21 PM

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I really hate this discussion. It's like every pot head in America thinks that if they legalize pot, they'll be able to smoke on street corners and still buy from their cousin. It will be taxed out the butt hole, and probably not legal to do outside of bars. Once at the University of Arkansas, I saw a debate between a former DEA agent and the creator of High times and it was laughable watching the creator of high times try and defend the " it's my religion, and damn the man" part of his argument.

I never said that I thought any of that, because I know it wouldn't be that way. Go ahead and tax it, it's cheap enough anyways in my opinion, it actually costs more right now because of the black market. There's not too much involved in growing it, so it starts with a super low production cost, so then even if they taxed it back up to the price it is now while illegal, I don't think too many people would care about it being taxed.

fdeck · #19 01-11-2010, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by blendermassacre

It will be taxed out the butt hole, and probably not legal to do outside of bars.

How will this be enforced?

Metal Matt · #20 01-11-2010, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SpamBot

You grow pot. It is against the law. Therefore, it is a crime. Therefore, you are a criminal.

And hey, sometimes this plant makes you say a stupid thing or two. Except exclaiming "I love you, you fat bastard" to your friends very large cat like I did earlier today is at least an amusing form of stupid for others around you.