TalkBass OFFICIAL English Football thread 2012-13: Part 3 - Page 6

Darkstrike · #**101** 02-02-2013, 10:02 AM

Chelsea fall apart again, not bad that.

**cheezewiz** · #**102** 02-02-2013, 10:04 AM

Well, good previals over evil. Despite the drooling Orcs playing 10 men behind the ball the entire game, and using their usual rugby tactics, including Shawcross kicking Koscielny in the bean bag, the Gunners put one in and take the W.

**cheezewiz** · #**103** 02-02-2013, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Darkstrike

Chelsea fall apart again, not bad that.

Oooh. And John Terry directly responsible for the tying goal. Excellent.

Tituscrow · #**104** 02-02-2013, 10:12 AM

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It was being reminded by your book that done it.

Derek was a pal of mine in his later years. Decent bloke, despite some people's views of his actions during the Bhatti Brothers era. And without doubt one of our greatest ever players, of course. Even his detractors agree with that.

Here he is in action against your lot on a snowy Boxing Day in 1970. Great clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LmZT4O1caE

Steve Gordos, who co-wrote that biography, is also a drinking buddy of mine. He was a sports writer/all round hack for our local rag and he sat a couple of rows in front of me in the Billy Wright stand for about nine seasons.

That would have been the 1969-1970 championship side then. My old man used to go on about Ball, Harvey, Kendall, Labone etc. To be fair, that looks even colder in black and white. Isn't YouTube great?

**bassybill** · #**105** 02-02-2013, 10:24 AM

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That would have been the 1969-1970 championship side then. My old man used to go on about Ball, Harvey, Kendall, Labone etc. To be fair, that looks even colder in black and white. Isn't YouTube great?

I remember several of those Everton players very well.

Don't you think that clip really gives you a sense of how much heavier the ball was back then? I know that catching one of those full in the face on a cold school football pitch really made your eyes water.

Darkstrike · #**106** 02-02-2013, 10:35 AM

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I remember several of those Everton players very well.

Don't you think that clip really gives you a sense of how much heavier the ball was back then? I know that catching one of those full in the face on a cold school football pitch really made your eyes water.

Looks like a lead weight really, would love to come across one in person, just to see that actual difference for myself.

Tituscrow · #**107** 02-02-2013, 10:45 AM

I was born 69, so those days of yore were nothing but bedtime stories. I'm so glad we can now see some of that restored footage. Awesome.

Your point about the ball is a good one. However, consider this....when Dixie Dean scored his legendary 60 goals in a season, 40 of them were with his head.

And that was back in the 1920s and 1930s, when the ball was even more leaden than in this clip from 1970!

Darkstrike · #**108** 02-02-2013, 10:48 AM

TBH, I don't/didn't even like heading modern balls, when there's any pace behind them.

**bassybill** · #**109** 02-02-2013, 10:59 AM

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Looks like a lead weight really, would love to come across one in person, just to see that actual difference for myself.

I had one of those and left it in the garden. When I went out, the rubber bladder had developed a little bubble poking out by the laces (the 2mm thick rubber was stretched to translucency).

Mom said I should let it go down so that she could stitch the leather back together, so I left it a few hours longer - in direct sunlight. When I went back, the bladder had expanded to about two feet across and ripped the leather casing entirely apart. I burst it from a safe distance by throwing it on to some rose bush cuttings - the BANG was ear shattering.

This would have been about 1970. Ha ha, an early lesson for bassybill in the power of thermal gas expansion.

Tituscrow · #**110** 02-02-2013, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bassybill

I had one of those and left it in the garden. When I went out, the rubber bladder had developed a little bubble poking out by the laces (the 2mm thick rubber was stretched to translucency).

Mom said I should let it go down so that she could stitch the leather back together, so I left it a few hours longer - in direct sunlight. When I went back, the bladder had expanded to about two feet across and ripped the leather casing entirely apart. I burst it from a safe distance by throwing it on to some rose bush cuttings - the BANG was ear shattering.

This would have been about 1970. Ha ha, an early lesson for bassybill in the power of thermal gas expansion.

PV = nRT

MartinG1957 · #**111** 02-02-2013, 11:06 AM

Gawd I remember those things being
of an earlier vintage - I remember in high school playing in the trials for the school team and playing with one of those things for the first time - first contact was a header on something dropping from the stratosphere which left me with a pounding head and rattled my teeth like castanets - second was an evil full blooded drive from about 3 feet away which I decided to stop with the inside of my left thigh.... As I was a winger that sort of cramped my style somewhat...

**bassybill** · #**112** 02-02-2013, 11:07 AM

Here's some more classic stuff from 1973 that will appeal to an Evertonian.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlHDJ8VToiw

It's really weird to see the foul on Dougan getting a booking instead of a sending off (no yellow or red cards in those days, of course).

And just look at the state of the pitch!

Tituscrow · #**113** 02-02-2013, 11:13 AM

Christ, that pitch wouldn't even be up to scratch in the conference these days!

What was the answer to the trivia question btw?

Darkstrike · #**114** 02-02-2013, 11:21 AM

"We'll play in the dark,
We'll ply in the dark,
We're Man United,
We'll play in the dark!"

**bassybill** · #**115** 02-02-2013, 11:28 AM

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Christ, that pitch wouldn't even be up to scratch in the conference these days!

What was the answer to the trivia question btw?

Stoke and Accrington are the only two of the 12 founder members of the league who've never won the FA Cup.

Darkstrike · #**116** 02-02-2013, 12:34 PM

Rooney rather than RvP, but just as happy!

Nervy stuff though, but late game 1-0 wins is what made United back in the days of the King.

SoVeryTired · #**117** 02-02-2013, 12:50 PM

I'll take all those results today. An Arsenal defeat would've been mildly amusing but I don't wish for it in the same way I used to.

**bassybill** · #**118** 02-02-2013, 04:30 PM

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PV = nRT

One of the things students always find diffcult to get is why this relationship applies regardless of the chemical identity of the gas (or gases, in the case of air, for example). I always enjoy teaching how this works.

/chemistry lesson (yes, I said chemistry

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MarkMgibson · #**119** 02-02-2013, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cheezewiz

Well, good previals over evil. Despite the drooling Orcs playing 10 men behind the ball the entire game, and using their usual rugby tactics, including Shawcross kicking Koscielny in the bean bag, the Gunners put one in and take the W.

Yeah, I would have be most unhappy if the lads hadn't won that game. Talk about "parking the bus"!

MarkMgibson · #**120** 02-02-2013, 11:15 PM

My mother has one of those old balls. On the day my elder sister was born, dad scored 5 goals and they actually announced over the P.A. during the match that he'd just become a father (different priorities in those days LOL). So he kept the ball. Damn - the thing weighs a ton (this was from 1964). How the hell did they head those things?