TalkBass OFFICIAL English Football thread 2012-13: second half

[MarkMgibson]

Originally Posted by Darkstrike

Tell ya what, besides the immense 3 goal 2 assist performance, all props should go to Walcott for when he was tripped in the box, rather than stay down whining and playing for a peno, got right back up and knocked in a goal.

Yeah, I thought that was rather refreshing too, especially since he almost certainly would've been awarded the penalty. That was the best I've seen Walcott play - he was outstanding.

I hate diving (who doesn't) - I think Carzolo's penalty last week was even worse than Bale's, but to brag about it like it's a legitimate tactic makes me sick. Personally, if I was a referee, I'd take things like that into consideration when it comes to close decisions in future games. If a player has a history of diving, why should refs give them the benefit of the doubt? Bale basically said he was a cheat, and would continue to cheat in the future! Refs should treat players like that with extreme prejudice.

What do you all think about suspensions for players who blatantly dive? I generally don't much like "post-game video" bans, but diving and play acting is getting completely out of hand. Perhaps a 2 or 3 match ban might be a deterrent?

[Keano]

Originally Posted by MarkMgibson

Yeah, I thought that was rather refreshing too, especially since he almost certainly would've been awarded the penalty. That was the best I've seen Walcott play - he was outstanding.

I hate diving (who doesn't) - I think Carzolo's penalty last week was even worse than Bale's, but to brag about it like it's a legitimate tactic makes me sick. Personally, if I was a referee, I'd take things like that into consideration when it comes to close decisions in future games. If a player has a history of diving, why should refs give them the benefit of the doubt? Bale basically said he was a cheat, and would continue to cheat in the future! Refs should treat players like that with extreme prejudice.

What do you all think about suspensions for players who blatantly dive? I generally don't much like "post-game video" bans, but diving and play acting is getting completely out of hand. Perhaps a 2 or 3 match ban might be a deterrent?

I very much dislike divers as anyone in this thread (just read any of my past posts), and like I've always said, Bale only has himself to blame for this reputation of his.

But should the said reputation affect refereeing decision? So is Bale going to get penalized for any and all falls even if there's legitimate contact/foul and the ref is unsure or just happens to be 50/50 about it? Maybe these retroactive penalties for simulation will curb players in the long run, but by same measure, these decisions should be allowed to be appealed for questionable calls.

[Tituscrow]

Lampard can join my hate list.

They were there for the taking today. But if you don't take your chances against teams like Chelsea, in all likelihood you'll get punished.

Gutted.

Time for my once-a-year "come on QPR" shout.

[cheezewiz]

I watched the match Titus. Gutted for ya. I hate Chelsea. Now, Liverpool/QPR. Rooting for 0-0.

Walcott showed yesterday he can be brilliant, but he had a few real howlers too. Twice on breakaways he completely muddled things up. The 2 and 1 with Cazorla where he passed 2 yards behind the sprinting Spaniard, and the 3 on 2 where Podolski didn't have a defender within 10 yards of him, and Walcott went on his own and hit it straight at the keeper.

[Darkstrike]

That was a shame, I was sure you had them, when early on Everton looked so titanic.

[Tituscrow]

Meh. We'll play worse and win, just like we'll play better and lose.

Just a shame that chance to go third went begging.

...and Suarez scores as I type....

[Keano]

Is Distin really 35 years old? Hard to believe, by way he's playing so well.

Shame Jelavic couldn't bury that at the end.

[Tituscrow]

Originally Posted by Keano

Is Distin really 35 years old? Hard to believe, by way he's playing so well.

Shame Jelavic couldn't bury that at the end.

Yep. He joined City 10 years ago after several years in France. We snapped him from Portsmouth. Good, solid defender, but starting to look a bit creaky.

[Keano]

Originally Posted by Tituscrow

Yep. He joined City 10 years ago after several years in France. We snapped him from Portsmouth. Good, solid defender, but starting to look a bit creaky.

I don't know, I thought he had pretty good year last season, barring that period where he was injured. Today he looked to have some of it back.

Also, Newcastle made Villa look half decent yesterday. Today, QPR is making any team not named QPR look half decent.

[The Mouse]

Yeah, sure Walcott had a good game. It's funny how some players play their best football when their contract is pending. T'is true you know? As a Gunner, I don't know what to make of the lad..

[boethius]

Originally Posted by cheezewiz

I watched the match Titus. Gutted for ya. I hate Chelsea. Now, Liverpool/QPR. Rooting for 0-0.

Walcott showed yesterday he can be brilliant, but he had a few real howlers too. Twice on breakaways he completely muddled things up. The 2 and 1 with Cazorla where he passed 2 yards behind the sprinting Spaniard, and the 3 on 2 where Podolski didn't have a defender within 10 yards of him, and Walcott went on his own and hit it straight at the keeper.

My 11 year old was screaming at him to never hit the ball to the keeper!! Make him dive, charge or reach...but never "pass" it to him! Otherwise he did have a great match, which was really fun to see in the end.

[cheezewiz]

Originally Posted by boethius

My 11 year old was screaming at him to never hit the ball to the keeper!! Make him dive, charge or reach...but never "pass" it to him! Otherwise he did have a great match, which was really fun to see in the end.

His third goal was sweet. It was nice to see him pop up and score after contact in the box, rather than flop around on the ground acting like his femur is shattered like a certain pale, big eared, hairless chimp lookalike who also plays in north London would have done.

[Keano]

Originally Posted by cheezewiz

His third goal was sweet. It was nice to see him pop up and score after contact in the box, rather than flop around on the ground acting like his femur is shattered like a certain pale, big eared, hairless chimp lookalike who also plays in north London would have done.

You mean like a certain diminutive Spanish midfielder who also plays in north London did against West Brom against run of play to seal off a game?

I like how all the gooners (not just in here) are coming out to bash Bale for this, and fair enough rightfully so because I don't agree with his attitude either, but when Cazorla did it, general attitude seemed "a win is a win". lol

[boethius]

Originally Posted by cheezewiz

His third goal was sweet. It was nice to see him pop up and score after contact in the box, rather than flop around on the ground acting like his femur is shattered like a certain pale, big eared, hairless chimp lookalike who also plays in north London would have done.

That was a brilliant show of having a sack, taking a hit and making them pay without the fish flopping routine! He's not quite ready for the Sarries front line...and I guess that's a different thread discussion...but still refreshing to see him man up!

[MarkMgibson]

Originally Posted by Keano

You mean like a certain diminutive Spanish midfielder who also plays in north London did against West Brom against run of play to seal off a game?

I like how all the gooners (not just in here) are coming out to bash Bale for this, and fair enough rightfully so because I don't agree with his attitude either, but when Cazorla did it, general attitude seemed "a win is a win". lol

Not me, like I said in a earlier thread, Carzola's dive was reprehensible. I think the fact that Bale actually defended his actions is what has so many people annoyed.

[MarkMgibson]

Originally Posted by The Mouse

Yeah, sure Walcott had a good game. It's funny how some players play their best football when their contract is pending. T'is true you know? As a Gunner, I don't know what to make of the lad..

I think he's shown enough to be given the striker position for a while. His pace scares the hell out of defenders, and his finishing is getting better and better. He's their best option anyway, so may as well give him a shot.

[cheezewiz]

Originally Posted by Keano

You mean like a certain diminutive Spanish midfielder who also plays in north London did against West Brom against run of play to seal off a game?

I like how all the gooners (not just in here) are coming out to bash Bale for this, and fair enough rightfully so because I don't agree with his attitude either, but when Cazorla did it, general attitude seemed "a win is a win". lol

Indeed Cazorla's was not good. I won't defend it. However, he had one blatant dive. Chimpboy has about 1 a week.

[Tituscrow]

Originally Posted by cheezewiz

Indeed Cazorla's was not good. I won't defend it. However, he had one blatant dive. Chimpboy has about 1 a week.

Come on Cheeze, that's out of order. It's at least 3

[Heathen]

Originally Posted by Keano

Also, Newcastle made Villa look half decent yesterday.

Not really, considering on the same day Villa went and lost to Wigan of all people...

[Keano]

Originally Posted by cheezewiz

Indeed Cazorla's was not good. I won't defend it. However, he had one blatant dive. Chimpboy has about 1 a week.

Originally Posted by Tituscrow

Come on Cheeze, that's out of order. It's at least 3

You guys are silly.

I hear the new training ground has a diving pool so Bale can do it 7 days a week, if needed.

Originally Posted by Heathen

Not really, considering on the same day Villa went and lost to Wigan of all people...

True enough.