TB Hammers Plugin-Container.exe

SurferJoe46 · #1 04-09-2011, 11:17 AM

Every time I load or reload a page from TB, I get several instances of Plugin-Container.exe that fires up and that kills many other ongoing processes - like my streaming media which I keep running 24/7.

I also see the load-whirly-thing still running a few moments even after a page is fully loaded.

I see this in my taskmanager - there are just too many of the Plugin-Container.exe running on this site.

It even restarts on some pages long after the page is loaded - it starts up again, loading something that I cannot detect.

What's with all the overhead from the TB website?

L-A · #2 04-09-2011, 11:25 AM

I'm pretty sure that's not coming from Talkbass. As a matter of fact, I'm absolutely certain this has to do with you running Firefox on Windows. And getting Flash ads.

**bassybill** · #3 04-09-2011, 11:27 AM

Sounds weird - no instances of that running here.

Sonic_Death · #4 04-09-2011, 11:34 AM

Are you running Firefox 4.0?

Since upgrading, I haven't had the plugin container issues that I was having prior.

SurferJoe46 · #5 04-09-2011, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by L-A

I'm pretty sure that's not coming from Talkbass. As a matter of fact, I'm absolutely certain this has to do with you running Firefox on Windows. And getting Flash ads.

ABP is running so I never see any ads or pops or toast for the same reason. - and I bet this is a Silverlite or Flash problem.

I get the same problem in Chrome too - but it uses the IE and M$ legacy settings to get the TB pages up and running. Again, ABP is running there and it keeps the nasty Flash-junk away too.

I have two pages of TB loading at the mo, and I have six instances of Plugin-Containers.exe running and then they settle down as the pages get fully loaded.

Somehow I am not without Plugin-Containers.exe running at least one instance all the time I am on TB.

I do not see all this happening on other sites - however in reality, GC's site is slightly worse.

Yeah - FF 4.0 is up-n-running here.

L-A · #6 04-09-2011, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SurferJoe46

ABP is running so I never see any ads or pops or toast for the same reason. - and I bet this is a Silverlite or Flash problem.

I get the same problem in Chrome too - but it uses the IE and M$ legacy settings to get the TB pages up and running. Again, ABP is running there and it keeps the nasty Flash-junk away too.

Ad Blocker intervenes in the Javascript and CSS to hide the apps. They are still loaded, and if a plugin manager is to manage Flash or Silverlight, it still will.

**bassybill** · #7 04-09-2011, 11:54 AM

I don't get the "web browser causing issues" thing. For a while now I've seen people pimping Firefox and Chrome as if they offer some sort of advantage. I use IE8 and have no urge to move to Firefox, Chrome, Safari, Opera...

I think people switch browsers because of an urge to just tinker or some sort of weird distrust of Microsoft.

Oh well, whatever floats your boat I guess...

James Hart · #8 04-09-2011, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bassybill

I think people switch browsers because of an urge to just tinker or some sort of weird distrust of Microsoft.

or for Microsoft trying to implement their own set of internet standards instead of writing a browser to utilize the standards that this place was built on.

SurferJoe46 · #9 04-09-2011, 12:09 PM

I so thoroughly dislike IE and all it's permutations that I switched to FF when it's first few incarnations were still in beta versions.

This new problem may have other answers, some of which I am soliciting here in case anyone else has noticed it.

Frankly, (or Bob-ly or even Tim-ly) I keep TB running pretty much 24/7 too, so I can see responses and not have to wait for the bell to ring in Chrome to let me know I have a response. Such is the life of a retired person who is still snowed in and it's only 20ºF for many days of the week.

Not BLAMING TB, I wonder if this is just my system of a narrow pipe that I have to contend with through my ISP.

Still - it's new and just recently happening in the past few weeks or so.

I at first thought it might be my FAX line in/out to a modem on my puter - but I yanked that out the other day to no improvement to my streaming media. it still goes blank and I see WMP is trying to reload when the sound disappears.

Typing this reply, my stream has blanked out and back on about a dozen times and I have stepped down to 96Kbps for this stream and I still cannot hold it.

**bassybill** · #10 04-09-2011, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by James Hart

or for Microsoft trying to implement their own set of internet standards instead of writing a browser to utilize the standards that this place was built on.

James, it sounds like you're way more knowledgeable than I am about that. I use IE because it "just works". Lol.

James Hart · #11 04-09-2011, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bassybill

James, it sounds like you're way more knowledgeable than I am about that. I use IE because it "just works". Lol.

and it does... I think the latest version if pretty okay, I just switched to FF with the release of it's public beta years ago when IE was trying to brand the interwebz an MS product. I've just stuck with it... because it 'just works'

L-A · #12 04-09-2011, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bassybill

James, it sounds like you're way more knowledgeable than I am about that. I use IE because it "just works". Lol.

People like me spend 10-30% additional time on projects so that web sites can "just work" in Internet Explorer 6 and 7 like they do in the other major browsers.

Visit Atlantis World's Fair in Internet Explorer 6, 7 or 8, and then fire up Firefox or Chrome and compare

SurferJoe46 · #13 04-09-2011, 01:49 PM

Well - it comes down to an ipconfig problem and the fact that Firefox is trying to avert a crash by reloading a page that it suspects is in trouble and it swamps the CPU.

Wow - nice move FF 4.0!

Now I have to go into my internal settings and---->
1) enter: about:config in the address bar
2) type in "dom.ipc"
3) disable the 2 values that say TRUE, changing them to FALSE
4) reset the value of the other two to ' 0 ' seconds from ' 45 ' seconds

Still sticking to FF4 though - I hate IE and Uncle Bill

**bassybill** · #14 04-09-2011, 08:16 PM

One of the main reasons I stick with IE is for Outlook Web Access, which I need in order to access my work email and calendar when away from the office. OWA just doesn't play very well with other browsers.

James Hart · #15 04-09-2011, 08:37 PM

yeah, I use to use it for my ex-employer's exchange mail server... as well as a java based Sonus network monitoring tool that was a bit funky in FF.