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P. Aaron 02-11-2013 06:42 AM

THESE ARE THE END TIMES: Makers Mark waters down its bourbon
 
Maker’s Mark just got a little less stiff. The bourbon brand, known for its bottles sealed with red wax, told customers today that it’s reducing the amount of alcohol in the beverage in order to meet rising global demand.




http://qz.com/52478/makers-mark-wate...rising-demand/

knumbskull 02-11-2013 06:51 AM

the global demand for what??

if anything, i'd say the world needs stronger booze.

hover 02-11-2013 07:03 AM

read:

meet rising global demand= upping their profit margin at the expense of their product / brand integrity. You can "taste-test" and spin it any way you want, but people are paying premium for the genuine article, and not a compromise.
Increase your production capability or keep things as is.

ErebusBass 02-11-2013 07:32 AM

Guess I'm switching to Knob Creek.

SoonerMatt 02-11-2013 07:33 AM

Well, time to swing by the liquor store and stock up.

Lonesomedave 02-11-2013 07:35 AM

the consumers could stop it...announce a boycott of Maker's Mark, and don't buy until they renounce the heresy.

i'm starting now. who's with me?


keiththebassist 02-11-2013 08:36 AM

Meh, I've been watering down my makers with melted ice cubes for years. Maybe I'm just docile on this Monday morning but I think I'll leave my pitchfork in the shed today.

bassbully 02-11-2013 09:09 AM

One of least fav Bourbons so no loss to me.

jaywa 02-11-2013 09:15 AM

Less (and/or worse) product for the same (or higher) price.

Everyone else is doing it... this doesn't surprise me.

hover 02-11-2013 09:17 AM

At LEAST they are being forthcoming about it, and not being sneaky about it. I've got no dog in the fight tho, I don't drink it, I'm just sayin, if you're going to endlessly quote tradition / authenticity as a selling point / justification of the premium price, then don't change it.

OR

Introduce two tiers of the product, and make the "pure" variant" a "private reserve" version, and let the market drive that at whatever premium...but don't charge the same for something different just because a taste test panel feels you won't tell the difference. That's not the point.

dullsilver_mike 02-11-2013 10:15 AM

^^that's probably what will happen. 12 or 18 mos. down the road they'll re-release the original style and call it "private reserve" for an extra $10 a bottle. Hooray.

i_got_a_mohawk 02-11-2013 10:25 AM

Couldn't they just, oh I don't know, distil more spirit?

Meet the increased demand with an increase in production.

But what do I know . . .


It's something that's been happening for a while with Malt Whisky, though at least a few still aim for 43% or 46% (or full cask strength, which will vary depending on the cask).

bassybill 02-11-2013 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hover (Post 13863488)
At LEAST they are being forthcoming about it, and not being sneaky about it. I've got no dog in the fight tho, I don't drink it, I'm just sayin, if you're going to endlessly quote tradition / authenticity as a selling point / justification of the premium price, then don't change it.

OR

Introduce two tiers of the product, and make the "pure" variant" a "private reserve" version, and let the market drive that at whatever premium...but don't charge the same for something different just because a taste test panel feels you won't tell the difference. That's not the point.

Well put - saved me some typing there. ;)

Bert Slide 02-11-2013 01:51 PM

There are so many bourbons that are much better than Makers anyway. This now makes them officially dead to me.

Bob Lee (QSC) 02-11-2013 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonesomedave (Post 13863012)
the consumers could stop it...announce a boycott of Maker's Mark, and don't buy until they renounce the heresy.

i'm starting now. who's with me?


And another plus: it would also solve the increased demand dilemma! ;)

Simo98 02-11-2013 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hover (Post 13863488)
At LEAST they are being forthcoming about it, and not being sneaky about it.

Definitely a plus here. I'd say the reason they are infact putting it out there is to gauge the customers reaction to the change.


I don't know about overseas, but here in Australia a lot of products have gone the "Downsizing" route without changing the price or letting the customer know. Not long ago Cadbury chocolate blocks went from 250g to 200g, stayed the same price (and have since gone up!). They even went to the extent of cleverly disguising it as the "new packaging" which is supposedly even better for the customer for whatever reason they came up with, no mention that you were getting 20% less product for the same price...

DerHoggz 02-11-2013 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simo98 (Post 13865681)
Definitely a plus here. I'd say the reason they are infact putting it out there is to gauge the customers reaction to the change.


I don't know about overseas, but here in Australia a lot of products have gone the "Downsizing" route without changing the price or letting the customer know. Not long ago Cadbury chocolate blocks went from 250g to 200g, stayed the same price (and have since gone up!). They even went to the extent of cleverly disguising it as the "new packaging" which is supposedly even better for the customer for whatever reason they came up with, no mention that you were getting 20% less product for the same price...

They sized down ice cream awhile back and advertised its "freezer-friendly" size.

robd 02-11-2013 04:07 PM

"But international growth is what’s driving demand for bourbon makers like Beam Inc., which produces Maker’s Mark as well as Jim Beam, a cheaper and more popular bourbon. Beam executives earlier this month said Australia, Germany, and Japan were strong markets. "



If the shortage is due to global demand, they should sent the watered down **** overseas and leave our whisky alone.



:hiding:

Bloodhammer 02-11-2013 04:14 PM

I'm with Dave on this one. Since we know, let THEM know we won't put up with this ****!

Easy for me - I drink Black Velvet, anyway (yes, I know that's not bourbon :hmm:).

bluestarbass 02-11-2013 04:20 PM

"But international growth is what’s driving demand for bourbon makers like Beam Inc., which produces Maker’s Mark as well as Jim Beam, a cheaper and more popular bourbon. Beam executives earlier this month said Australia, Germany, and Japan were strong markets. "

Are they trying to say beam owns makers?!? This is a flat out lie. They are big competition. I've been to both distilleries, they don't really like each other.


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