Tony Hayward gets his life back

emor · #1 06-20-2010, 03:25 AM

a$$h*le

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/20/us...%20race&st=cse

Gopherbassist · #2 06-20-2010, 03:36 AM

How dare this human being live his life! Where's my pitchfork?

LAG · #3 06-20-2010, 05:42 AM

Well, hopefully he brings his boat back to the gulf soon to help with the clean-up, now that his life is back.

Alfie · #4 06-20-2010, 06:07 AM

Good for him, it's only a job after all, albeit one he wasn't very good at. He wasn't personally responsible for the oil spill, he just happens to be a very convenient scapegoat.

Let him spend some time with his family, it means that someone more competant will be in charge.

mike_v_s · #5 06-20-2010, 07:49 AM

I find it hard to believe he personally ordered the circumvention of safety protocol, though people in that position get paid to steer the ship and either reap the rewards or go down with it. The lack of urgency that BP (or anyone else, really) showed in the first, oh, say, 50 days of the spill is inexcusable. For that, I feel comfortable hanging it on him.

Mike

**NOLA Bass** · #6 06-20-2010, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mike_v_s

I find it hard to believe he personally ordered the circumvention of safety protocol, though people in that position get paid to steer the ship and either reap the rewards or go down with it. The lack of urgency that BP (or anyone else, really) showed in the first, oh, say, 50 days of the spill is inexcusable. For that, I feel comfortable hanging it on him.

Mike

Agreed Mike. This company under his watch had massive amounts of safety issues and obviously took many shortcuts that led to this. Honestly, that this guy could not find a less public way to spend time with his family then a very public yacht race show exactly what he thinks of all us "small people" as he termed it.

mike_v_s · #7 06-20-2010, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by NOLA Bass

Agreed Mike. This company under his watch had massive amounts of safety issues and obviously took many shortcuts that led to this. Honestly, that this guy could not find a less public way to spend time with his family then a very public yacht race show exactly what he thinks of all us "small people" as he termed it.

It was the Chairman of the Board that used the "small people" phrase, but I agree that he still doesn't seem to get it. If I had been in the position he was in and responsible for the "clean up" that still hasn't really kickied into high gear, I'd be hiding right now. Dog and pony show, for the most part, from most of the players (including our government).

Mike

FL Knifemaker · #8 06-20-2010, 08:57 AM

If I owned that boat, I'd be out on it too FTW.

spade2you · #9 06-20-2010, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mike_v_s

Dog and pony show, for the most part, from most of the players (including our government).

Not that the government would admit it.

Too bad the "truth" is so media driven and often based on sensationalism.

Schlyder · #10 06-20-2010, 09:13 AM

It's OK though for Obama to head to the golf course for another round of golf.

spade2you · #11 06-20-2010, 09:19 AM

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It's OK though for Obama to head to the golf course for another round of golf.

LOL, the world is on fire, but the bosses have the weekend off. SOOOOOOO typical, eh?

My department is short, most of the full timers have been working 50 hour work weeks for months and I have yet to see any managers lift a finger........such is life.

Stinsok · #12 06-20-2010, 09:23 AM

Paul McCartney and Stevie Wonder just don't seem to have enough star power to plug the hole. Let's try Kanye.

BurningSkies · #13 06-20-2010, 10:17 AM

Let's be honest. It's crass on behalf of both Obama AND Hayward's part.

It shows no sensitivity to the people who DO have to live this 24 hours a day, even though they do not, nor would I expect them to.

It would have gone a long way to have a few stories in the press (and I believe both men could have arranged this) about how they were canceling their weekend festivities to 'work' on the problem...even if they just sat at home and watched TV re-runs and posted on TB for the weekend.

Stupid.

spade2you · #14 06-20-2010, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BurningSkies

Let's be honest. It's crass on behalf of both Obama AND Hayward's part.

It shows no sensitivity to the people who DO have to live this 24 hours a day, even though they do not, nor would I expect them to.

It would have gone a long way to have a few stories in the press (and I believe both men could have arranged this) about how they were canceling their weekend festivities to 'work' on the problem...even if they just sat at home and watched TV re-runs and posted on TB for the weekend.

Stupid.

Perhaps us simpletons don't get it. I'm sure there were legitimate reasons they were both doing $$$$$$$ events throughout the weekend. Kinda reminds me of when CEOs were chartering private jets on the way to get their govt. bailouts.........then again, so did the politicians, but nobody talked about that.

**jmattbassplaya** · #15 06-20-2010, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by spade2you

Perhaps us simpletons don't get it. I'm sure there were legitimate reasons they were both doing $$$$$$$ events throughout the weekend. Kinda reminds me of when CEOs were chartering private jets on the way to get their govt. bailouts.........then again, so did the politicians, but nobody talked about that.

Honestly I don`t see how any of us can be mad at them. They are people and have lives outside of work just like any of us. To them, taking the yacht out for the weekend is no different then most middle class people going out for dinner on the weekend. It might seem extravagant and like a big "**** you" to all of us, but to him it`s just his ordinary life and his attempt to find something normal out of all of this.

WITH THAT IN MIND, I don`t think this guy is sorry for what has happened and I don`t think he gets it. I don`t think any of these CEOs, CFO`s, and politicians get it anymore. I think if there is one thing we can all learn about from this event is that there is still a huge class system going on in all first world countries. All rich people and families will stay rich (if not get richer) and will continue to stay in positions of power (both economical and political), while the middle and lower class will stay right where they are and continue fighting just to keep their heads above water.

Oh well

bassrique · #16 06-20-2010, 11:17 AM

He was replaced from the spill team anyway:

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NEW ORLEANS -- BP removed Chief Executive Tony Hayward from day-to-day oversight of the Gulf oil spill crisis a day after he was pummeled by lawmakers in an appearance on Capitol Hill, the company's chairman said Friday.

Carl-Henric Svanberg told Britain's Sky News television that Hayward "is now handing over the operations, the daily operations to (BP Managing Director) Bob Dudley," overshadowing news that after many setbacks BP was finally making real progress in siponing and burning off oil from the underwater gusher.

http://www.cleveland.com/business/in...lieved_of.html

BurningSkies · #17 06-20-2010, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by spade2you

Perhaps us simpletons don't get it. I'm sure there were legitimate reasons they were both doing $$$$$$$ events throughout the weekend. Kinda reminds me of when CEOs were chartering private jets on the way to get their govt. bailouts.........then again, so did the politicians, but nobody talked about that.

It doesn't matter if the simpletons do or don't get it.

The point is that while no one really expects these guys to buy a 3 bedroom ranch, drive a Hyundai or buy their clothes at Walmart. But laying low for a month or two certainly is the way to go. It shows sensitivity to those who are being hurt. And a little sensitivity goes a long way when you're trying to convince the known world that you care and understand.

I'm surprised that the 'handlers' of each of these individuals don't get it.

spade2you · #18 06-20-2010, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BurningSkies

It doesn't matter if the simpletons do or don't get it.

The point is that while no one really expects these guys to buy a 3 bedroom ranch, drive a Hyundai or buy their clothes at Walmart. But laying low for a month or two certainly is the way to go. It shows sensitivity to those who are being hurt. And a little sensitivity goes a long way when you're trying to convince the known world that you care and understand.

I'm surprised that the 'handlers' of each of these individuals don't get it.

Tiz true. Then again, it's probably a disconnect from the common folk since it's pretty rare that someone starts from the bottom and works their way up.

As a guy in the trenches, I don't get to decide when I want to work or when I can stop.

bmc · #19 06-20-2010, 11:53 AM

I would not be surprised if this will be a case study example in business schools of how to crater your share price through PR gaffs.

Dr. Cheese · #20 06-20-2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfie

Good for him, it's only a job after all, albeit one he wasn't very good at. He wasn't personally responsible for the oil spill, he just happens to be a very convenient scapegoat.

Let him spend some time with his family, it means that someone more competant will be in charge.

+1

I'm so tired of everyone worrying about how things look instead of focusing on the actual mechanics of creating a viable solution.

The world has taken an engineering problem and turned it into a big piece of political crap.