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12-09-2009, 06:20 PM
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Oh my, this is so tragic and an example of censorship and oppression Way to go Australia! It's only in the whole school system a few private primary schools (thanks Mark Lartimour), but hopefully the rest of the country other school systems will follow to help staunch the spread of this abomination that causes miscarriges everytime Edward Cullen's name is spoken because this book needs to be B& even if it is censorship. because I have no reason to come up with anything better and want to make a valid case for banning this book on general principles. http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ent...-1225772090737
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12-09-2009, 07:32 PM
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12-09-2009, 07:37 PM
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12-09-2009, 07:38 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Leeds, UK | | I'm all for banning Twilight, but I don't agree with the reasons that they have banned them.... Quote: |
Librarians have stripped the books from shelves in some junior schools because they believe the content... goes against religious beliefs.
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If you can't have books on the shelves because they might contradict someone's religious beliefs, they should probably ban the bible as well. Pretty sure that contradicts some people's religious views.
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12-09-2009, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Happynoj If you can't have books on the shelves because they might contradict someone's religious beliefs, they should probably ban the bible as well. Pretty sure that contradicts some people's religious views. | It is Australia...
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12-09-2009, 11:33 PM
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12-09-2009, 11:46 PM
|  | I'll take you into the water. | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brisbane QLD Australia | | | they were probably just making up some lame excuse to band them. I hope for a australia wide ban of everything twilight related | 
12-10-2009, 12:17 AM
|  | is, against all odds, still a scuba viking. | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alta Loma, California | | | yeah... banning a book because it allegedly offends the delicate sensibilities of a few religious people who can't handle the fact that not everyone agrees with them is nothing short of pure idiocy.
shame on you Australia.
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12-10-2009, 12:25 AM
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12-10-2009, 12:29 AM
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12-10-2009, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Kwesi I think that they're reasnn would be more sound had they said "because it sucked"  . Definitely not a Twilight fan but I dislike unnecessary censorship more. | Agreed.
I don't know much about the Twilight books and from what I've gathered,...they suck, but if they get any amount of preteens and teenagers pried away from their TV's and Blackberrys,...I'm all for it.
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12-10-2009, 12:53 AM
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12-10-2009, 03:37 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London UK | | I love the internet, rabble rabble rabble (why bother with the facts) crowd. A two second read of the article reveals:
1. Its handful (ie maybe 4 or 5) of primary schools (ie ages 6-12) in Sydney banning the books;
2. All the schools in question are private education schools (not government schools);
3. All the schools in question are religious (ie Catholic) schools;
4. The book is being banned for being sexually explicit and going against religious beliefs.
5. This has nothing to do with the Government or any general view of Australia.
Feel free to continue to get your internet ePanties in a twist people. I like threads like these, they isolate the people who may not be safe to interact with normal society! 
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12-10-2009, 03:57 AM
| | Registered User Endorsing Artist: SWR Amplifiers | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Sydney, Australia | | | Two weeks ago I taught a 5th grade guitar class in an Australian school and managed to inspire the kids by having a songwriting competition. There were two teams, and the songs they came up with were "Twilight Rules" and "Twilight Sucks". Sadly, the "rules" crew did a better song... but the "Twilight sucks" people did get to have a say. | 
12-10-2009, 04:26 AM
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12-10-2009, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by DeliriumTremens nothing sexually explicit in Twilight - I know, I read it...  | Yup, not explicit.
Although it reads like a 500 pages in the realm of female mental masturbation.
Nothing wrong with that either... I'm just not the targeted audience.
And I am against censorship.
OTOH... does a school library has not the authority to decide what books they stock? 
Twillight didn't reached the quality threshold... like so many books.
That would be a reasonable and acceptable statement.
So this is not censorship.
Actively preventing kids from reading it, that is censorship.
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"We wanted to make sure they realise it's fictitious and ensure they don't have a wrong grasp on reality."
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I think then we must ban all fiction books targeted at preteens. | 
12-10-2009, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by René_Julien Yup, not explicit.
Although it reads like a 500 pages in the realm of female mental masturbation.
Nothing wrong with that either... I'm just not the targeted audience.
And I am against censorship.
OTOH... does a school library has not the authority to decide what books they stock? 
Twillight didn't reached the quality threshold... like so many books.
That would be a reasonable and acceptable statement.
So this is not censorship.
Actively preventing kids from reading it, that is censorship.
Also LOL at this statement:
I think then we must ban all fiction books targeted at preteens. |
It turns out they were only a few small private primary and religeous schools that did it. ALERT ALERT THUNDERSCREECH IS DISTORTING THE FACTS QUICK CALL THE FACTS POLICE! sorry I got that wrong.
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12-10-2009, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Thunderscreech It turns out they were only a few small private primary and religeous schools that did it. ALERT ALERT THUNDERSCREECH IS DISTORTING THE FACTS QUICK CALL THE FACTS POLICE! sorry I got that wrong. | I know.
But my opinion is toward libraries in general.
Not choosing to stock a certain book is not censorship. Regardless of the reasons.
Okay... this is a grey area.
If they already had the Twillight books:
- if they got rid off them to make room for newly aquired books the library authority thinks are better to have: not censorship.
- if they make a public event of it and piled up all the books to set them on fire: that is censorship.
And I agree... those few schools made it look like censorship.
I would have stated that some books don't meet the criteria and priorities of the library.
Advising parents not to let their preteen children read them is... parental advisory. Not censorship.
Most media has limit for minimum age.
Although I do not entirely agree that Twillight is not to be read by preteens.
But heck... I've got a dozen of books on the shelf that I would not recommend to be read by minus 16 year-olds.  | 
12-10-2009, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by IconBasser yeah... banning a book because it allegedly offends the delicate sensibilities of a few religious people who can't handle the fact that not everyone agrees with them is nothing short of pure idiocy.
shame on you Australia. | This is Twilight. It offends my sensablility. And lots of other people's, too... Quote:
Originally Posted by René_Julien I know.
But my opinion is toward libraries in general.
Not choosing to stock a certain book is not censorship. Regardless of the reasons.
Okay... this is a grey area.
If they already had the Twillight books:
- if they got rid off them to make room for newly aquired books the library authority thinks are better to have: not censorship.
- if they make a public event of it and piled up all the books to set them on fire: that is censorship.
And I agree... those few schools made it look like censorship.
I would have stated that some books don't meet the criteria and priorities of the library.
Advising parents not to let their preteen children read them is... parental advisory. Not censorship.
Most media has limit for minimum age.
Although I do not entirely agree that Twillight is not to be read by preteens.
But heck... I've got a dozen of books on the shelf that I would not recommend to be read by minus 16 year-olds.  | I agree with you on this. And especially because it's twilight.
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12-10-2009, 07:58 AM
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