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Old 12-22-2008, 08:02 PM
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My step-sis got a wicked virus on her system. The system is about 3 years old. Because of the age, and the number of viruses and trojans and crap on there, I suggested to just reformat with a fresh install of XP. I asked her to get all of her files that she wanted collected and burned to DVDs.

Well, tonight I started to work. She had told me prior that she had everything saved, so I went ahead with the format / reinstall. At around 3% of formatting, I ask where her disks were, and she said she never burned them! Everything is saved in one folder on the desktop, but because I was into the format, I cannot get into windows anymore. I tried a DOS fixboot and fixmbr, but no luck. I'm getting a "missing nltdr" error now. I'm sure it's more than that, however.

All I want to do is salvage her pics, which I'm fairly confident are intact on the drive. ANY suggestions at all????

THANKS in advance.
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I would try booting from the CD, press "R" for repair, then run chkdsk. If that completes successfully do a repair install of Windows.
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Old 12-22-2008, 08:17 PM
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I would try booting from the CD, press "R" for repair, then run chkdsk. If that completes successfully do a repair install of Windows.
Tried that. No luck.
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Old 12-22-2008, 08:31 PM
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Is it possible to take her drive and put it in another computer?
Just guessing you may be able to access the HD with a computer that has a functioning OS.
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Old 12-22-2008, 08:37 PM
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Is it possible to take her drive and put it in another computer?
Just guessing you may be able to access the HD with a computer that has a functioning OS.
It's an option, but one I'd prefer to avoid. I'm thinking that the drive wouldn't even be recognized anyway.

I tried to restore the ntldr files, which semed successful, but when I try to restore the boot.ini, I hit a brick wall, and I get an error, which I forget what it is.
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Do NOT save anything else on the drive or you'll risk overwriting the information. No disk check is going to do anything for you, you need to recover the MFT which has to be done with a data recovery program such as GetDataBack or something. You'll have to pay for it, I don't think there's a free solution.

If you haven't touched the drive since formatting you'll be able to get everything back no problem, but if you kept going with the OS install it might not be pretty...
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Do NOT save anything else on the drive or you'll risk overwriting the information. No disk check is going to do anything for you, you need to recover the MFT which has to be done with a data recovery program such as GetDataBack or something. You'll have to pay for it, I don't think there's a free solution.

If you haven't touched the drive since formatting you'll be able to get everything back no problem, but if you kept going with the OS install it might not be pretty...
Thanks Trevor! I didn't get anywhere near the OS install. I was only at 3% formatting when she told me she never burned the files

Is there any way to access that data with the system in one piece? I really don't feel like ripping apart hers and my system for drive swaps. If I use a live boot Linux OS like Ubuntu, can I track down the files and save them to my flash drive? I know I have a live Kubuntu disc around here somewhere...
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That might work, the live boot. I'm trying to recall my Linux days.

It also helps if you take the guinea pigs out of the CD ROM drive.
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Old 12-22-2008, 10:45 PM
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That might work, the live boot. I'm trying to recall my Linux days.

It also helps if you take the guinea pigs out of the CD ROM drive.
It's worth a try.


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Thanks Trevor! I didn't get anywhere near the OS install. I was only at 3% formatting when she told me she never burned the files

Is there any way to access that data with the system in one piece? I really don't feel like ripping apart hers and my system for drive swaps. If I use a live boot Linux OS like Ubuntu, can I track down the files and save them to my flash drive? I know I have a live Kubuntu disc around here somewhere...
I don't think any OS is going to be able to see any of the files, the MFT is a list of all the files stored on the drive and where they are located, and it's one of the first things to go when you reformat. Without it, the drive sees everything as empty space.
I've always used GetDataBack at work, it's pretty reliable. They make a plugin for WinPE that I was testing this week that works pretty well, you could boot that from a CD or USB flash drive and at least see if it could find the data.
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Old 12-22-2008, 10:51 PM
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I don't think any OS is going to be able to see any of the files, the MFT is a list of all the files stored on the drive and where they are located, and it's one of the first things to go when you reformat. Without it, the drive sees everything as empty space.
I've always used GetDataBack at work, it's pretty reliable. They make a plugin for WinPE that I was testing this week that works pretty well, you could boot that from a CD or USB flash drive and at least see if it could find the data.
The drive is actually showing up as almost full, not empty. I have NO idea why that is.
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Old 12-22-2008, 10:58 PM
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Several file recovery programs should be able to help you but there is not way you can boot from this drive. You need to plug it into another computer as a slave.
Additional note : unless you also killed partitions, reformating doesn't get you rid of all viruses. Many can reside in the boot sectors.
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The drive is actually showing up as almost full, not empty. I have NO idea why that is.
Well hell yea, you might still have everything I guess the format didn't get far enough.
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Old 12-22-2008, 11:02 PM
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Format doesn't erase data anyway. It ignores it.
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Old 12-23-2008, 07:22 AM
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Bump... Any other advice?
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I think this was suggested however, I would put the drive in another XP machine and see what the other machine sees on the drive.
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Old 12-23-2008, 07:50 AM
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I think this was suggested however, I would put the drive in another XP machine and see what the other machine sees on the drive.
If the MFT was wiped out, as Trevor suggested, would anything show up?
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Old 12-23-2008, 08:12 AM
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If it's just an NTLDR problem which I doubt try this http://www.tinyempire.com/notes/ntldrismissing.htm

Otherwise try an Ubuntu Live CD http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download

If that doesn't work you'll need to break out some expensive file recovery software.
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+1 to the Ubuntu thing.

Worked for my friend when his windows went tits up.
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Old 12-23-2008, 10:11 AM
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Thanks! I'll be giving that a try when I get home later...
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