US Navy lesbian couple share first gay dockside kiss

[bongomania]

Originally Posted by Lee H

I had a large gay man decide that he was going to hang out with the girls in the women's bathroom. ...He pushed me out of his way, and told me that I could not remove him, because he was gay, and IF I touched him it would be a hate crime
...If you are going to call one side intolerant, take careful consideration of those who are intolerant on the other side, or your point could backfire

He did not make such a fuss with the bathroom because he was gay, he did it because he was an attention-seeking freak. Granted he tried to make it about being gay, and hate crimes--but that was because he was an attention-seeking freak.

IOW, while that experience doubtless sucked, it has NOTHING to do with the topic of this thread, and means nothing in regard to any other points made by other people so far.

[loveandbass]

Lee, why do you believe one group of citizens should have more rights than another group? Do you happen to be a congressman?

[rr5025]

Originally Posted by ShredderMaximus

I bet he was high on "the weed" too...

j/k

Hey you forgot that he was on other drugs too!

[SamanthaCay]

Originally Posted by buchananbass

The end to the slippery slope argument is pretty simple.

If someone wants to engage in something that harms no one physically, let them.
If someone wants to engage in something that does harm to another physically, don't let them.

That's called logic, give it a try sometime you may find it to serve you very well in life.

It only gets mixed up when we as human beings bring our emotions and beliefs into the equation.

Being LGBT harms no one, it leads no further down any slope then being hetro, male, female, construction worker ect...
There has been LGBT people as long as there has been people, in some instances in history we have been more excepted then even today and it still hasn't led us down any slopes.

Did nobody read this?
I believe Kwesi said something similar and I think it's worth repeating because it seems some of us are getting way to wrapped up in way to many details.
The answer is real simple, go ahead read it again, think about it, read it again, think about it...

[i_got_a_mohawk]

Originally Posted by Bob Lee (QSC)

That's almost the exact opposite of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.

hahahaha

[slobake]

Let all people be who they are. The solution is to respect each other and not be so wrapped up in ourselves that we are easily offended. Imagine what it would be like if we all could speak to each other in a way that doesn't somehow benefit ourselves. Imagine real honest connections from our hearts instead of from our wants.
Ever spend time with a toddler? They know the whole purpose of the world is to make them happy. I'm still trying to outgrow that one.
How does this relate to two women kissing? I'm working on that? Just like I'm working on not being self centered.
I hope these two women aren't subjected to a lot of abuse because of this. May they find happiness and peace.
BTW I love Jesus and hate religion, He did too.

[Chebass88]

Originally Posted by Kwesi

I'm with you about 100% on everything you've said in this thread but I think when it comes to civil rights issues of any kind, it has to be an issue before it's a non-issue. Folks have to be educated as to why intolerance on such a level is wrong. Their children need to be told that just because someone is different (sexuality, race, nationality, religion, etc.) doesn't make them any better or worse than you. I'm sure race was a non-issue during the majority of the slave trade, that's just how things were. But somethings, as I'm sure you'd agree, need to change and chance doesn't happen when folks are quiet .

Absolutely things need to change. I agree completely about the need for education. I only made those points to show that there can be times when there is an over-emphasis on the differences, which can have a polarizing result.

Please don't misinterpret this. Specifically, a black person is not special merely BECAUSE they are black. Nor is a lesbian petty officer special BECAUSE she is a lesbian. I think better education about equality would come from approaching it as "This is a person. Skin pigmentation is arbitrary, same as sexual preference. They are the same as you."

It is still a massive issue. If the presentation demonstrates exact equality, eventually, people realize this and changes occur. It takes time.

[john grey]

As long as they're doing their job; who cares?

Most folks know that was done for a little shock value. Does it make a powerful political statement?
I asked someone who is what I would consider both Conservative and religious and he said almost verbatim what I did. There are much to many things to focus attention on. Children are still starving, slavery still exists, & we need to find alternative forms of energy to help both the economy and ecology.

[pbasswil]

I'm very happy that society is headed toward more acceptance of differences.

But I also appreciate that to people whose religions have more rigid social rules, this is a real uncomfortable development. I hope that in time they get more used to seeing a certain proportion of the population openly out of the closet.

What's that church whose slogan is "God hates fags"?! Ugh! Using the words God and hate in the same sentence makes me cringe.

[i_got_a_mohawk]

Originally Posted by pbasswil

What's that church whose slogan is "God hates fags"?! Ugh! Using the words God and hate in the same sentence makes me cringe.

Westboro Baptist Church.

[knumbskull]

tl; dnr

go gay sailors!

[i_got_a_mohawk]

I meant to add, have a great caption to go with the picture in the article, but I think I may get banned for it

[Kwesi]

Originally Posted by buchananbass

Did nobody read this?
I believe Kwesi said something similar and I think it's worth repeating because it seems some of us are getting way to wrapped up in way to many details.
The answer is real simple, go ahead read it again, think about it, read it again, think about it...

Originally Posted by Chebass88

Absolutely things need to change. I agree completely about the need for education. I only made those points to show that there can be times when there is an over-emphasis on the differences, which can have a polarizing result.

Please don't misinterpret this. Specifically, a black person is not special merely BECAUSE they are black. Nor is a lesbian petty officer special BECAUSE she is a lesbian. I think better education about equality would come from approaching it as "This is a person. Skin pigmentation is arbitrary, same as sexual preference. They are the same as you."

It is still a massive issue. If the presentation demonstrates exact equality, eventually, people realize this and changes occur. It takes time.

Agreed on all counts.

[fingerbun]

Originally Posted by i_got_a_mohawk

Westboro Baptist Church.

Please don't paint all us Christians with that brush!!

[silvertripper]

Plain and simple... In a free society everyone is allowed to have opinions and beliefs. And as long as we are allowed to have opinions, there will be debate, and disrespect, and there will be people who march in the streets to voice those opinions and beliefs. So people should stop complaining that others don't share their same opinion or belief, after all we are ALL allowed to participate in the free society. Regardless of religion or sexual preference are whatever. Carry on. Have your opinion and don't tell me what I can or can't think or believe.

[loveandbass]

Except society is not free for everyone

[i_got_a_mohawk]

Originally Posted by fingerbun

Please don't paint all us Christians with that brush!!

I'm agnostic, and I don't know anyone, religious or otherwise, who thinks that all Christians are like that!

[jmattbassplaya]

It's interesting that such a normal and boring thing like the sexuality of another person can cause such a ruckus and yet there aren't more people being vocal about actual important things - such as the best carrot for metal.

[nortonrider]

if sexuality was truly boring, the porn industry wouldn't be a 14 billion dollar a year industry.

[i_got_a_mohawk]

Originally Posted by nortonrider

if sexuality was truly boring, the porn industry wouldn't be a 14 billion dollar a year industry.

Sexuality is boring if you can't get involved and/or watch . . .