Valkyrie

[tplyons]

Whole bunch of movie threads today, so I figured I'd join in too.

Brother was home, so we went to see a movie tonight. We both wanted to see Valkyrie considering it's supposed to be Tom Cruise's first good since the Last Samurai or whatever. I like most of his work actually, just not his personal life, but that's another story.

Down to the movie: for those who don't know, it's a German Colonel plotting to kill Hitler to take over Germany and make peace with the world. It seems very noble and the realization that some Nazis realized that Hitler was not leading Germany to glory and decided to take action before the rest of Europe was destroyed.

I thought the acting was great, the story was great, and most of the movie was overall very good. At first, the movie started off in German with English subtitles, so I was irked at first. As soon as I got used to the subtitles, the movie seamlessly switched to English and I never actually noticed the transition. Very smooth.

Great movie, I'd recommend for anyone. It's not bloody, it's not boring, it's got some action but not much. Little bit of love thrown in, but overall, I'd classify Valkyrie as a great drama that's somewhat inspiring to take action and to the right thing in the face of evil.

I'd give the movie 4/5 jumpy dudes.

[FL Knifemaker]

Siskel and Lyons

Good review but I'm waiting for it to come out on cable. I'm turning into a hermit

[evan_phi]

my brother and I are going next week. can't wait.

[Joe Gress]

Saw it last night. Pretty good.

[Chunk-O-Funk]

How was Tom Cruise?

I've seen a couple of reviews where they state he is the worst part of the movie.
"Distractingly bad" was one comment. Basically, they say he just didn't fit the role.

I will still try to see it. I don't take critics reviews into account anyway.

[The Golden Boy]

Originally Posted by Chunk-O-Funk

How was Tom Cruise?

I've seen a couple of reviews where they state he is the worst part of the movie.
"Distractingly bad" was one comment. Basically, they say he just didn't fit the role.

I will still try to see it. I don't take critics reviews into account anyway.

Of course, I've just seen the trailers all over the History Channel and stuff- it looks good to me, and it looks like Cruise is a good fit for the character. I'm not a Cruise fan, and I think a LOT of people would have to suspend their feelings for Cruise for him to not be "distractingly bad." Which is a shame. It's a great story.

Another related story that would be great would be the Japanese army officers who tried kidnapping the emperor and tried to keep the war going...

[tplyons]

Originally Posted by Chunk-O-Funk

How was Tom Cruise?

I've seen a couple of reviews where they state he is the worst part of the movie.
"Distractingly bad" was one comment. Basically, they say he just didn't fit the role.

I will still try to see it. I don't take critics reviews into account anyway.

I don't think he was a bad fit at all. No real Cruise-isms to distract you. I think it was a well done role by him.

[scottice]

Maybe, possibly going to see it tonight.

[The Crusader]

I can't wait to see it. did a paper on this subject in college many moons ago, so I'm stoked.

[IconBasser]

I'm probably gonna see it today. Looks good!

[Joe Gress]

Originally Posted by tplyons

I don't think he was a bad fit at all. No real Cruise-isms to distract you. I think it was a well done role by him.

No, not bad at all. I think he did a pretty good job.

Was the dude who played the one general with glasses that waited too long to start valkyrie the same dude who played shawns dad from shawn of the dead?

[KennethB]

Everything relating to WWII is interesting to me so I'm gonna see this movie.

[mvw356]

Originally Posted by tplyons

Down to the movie: for those who don't know, it's a German Colonel plotting to kill Hitler to take over Germany and make peace with the world. It seems very noble and the realization that some Nazis realized that Hitler was not leading Germany to glory and decided to take action before the rest of Europe was destroyed.

havent' seen the film yet, but i'll go see it when it comes out. Claus von Stauffenberg is a historical figure i look up to.

one thing i'd like to put right, and that's why i quoted your post, is that people have the misconception about the plotters that they planned to change germany fundamentally. this is wrong, the plan was to replace some people in the hierarchy and get rid of some government agencies like the gestapo. the killing of the jews for example wasn't much of an issue, their anger towards hitler stemmed from his dubious tactis as chief of army and the 'unnecessary deaths' of german soldiers that ensued. it is a know fact that for some the doings of the SS behind the frontlines played a major part in the motivation for the attempted coup, like Hennning von Tresckow ( the real hero of the story imo).
essentially, the plan was to get the US on germany's side to unify forces against stalin.

[IconBasser]

Originally Posted by mvw356

havent' seen the film yet, but i'll go see it when it comes out. Claus von Stauffenberg is a historical figure i look up to.

one thing i'd like to put right, and that's why i quoted your post, is that people have the misconception about the plotters that they planned to change germany fundamentally. this is wrong, the plan was to replace some people in the hierarchy and get rid of some government agencies like the gestapo. the killing of the jews for example wasn't much of an issue, their anger towards hitler stemmed from his dubious tactis as chief of army and the 'unnecessary deaths' of german soldiers that ensued. it is a know fact that for some the doings of the SS behind the frontlines played a major part in the motivation for the attempted coup, like Hennning von Tresckow ( the real hero of the story imo).
essentially, the plan was to get the US on germany's side to unify forces against stalin.

wow... imagine how different the world would be if it had succeeded, and we did ally the germans and fight the russians... hm...

[bassrique]

I don't want to see the film because I know how the story goes.

Spoiler:



The conspirators were executed. Many were horribly tortured. Some of this was captured on film for Hitler's enjoyment. No thanks.

[StyleOverShow]

Heard Tom Cruise was 'the problem' with the film (LA Critics), claiming he is just "so right now" that it is hard to believe him, even with an eye patch and a prosthetic hand as anything but TC.

-richard

[funkalicious101]

I probably wont get a chance to see it, I take off to India in early January and am quite busy.

I know how it ends anyway.







I figured it was a weird movie to release on Christmas though. Its a movie where the bad guy doesnt die at the end. AND THE BAD GUY IS HITLER!!!

[Scarlet Fire]

61% on Rotten Tomatoes. I'll probably wait until it comes out on DVD.

[iamlowsound]

I haven't seen it, I'll probably download it if I want to see it. I just can't see myself paying to see a movie with Tom Cruse in it, while he wears an eye patch the whole time. Sorry, can't take that serious. Although I really liked him in Tropical Thunder, although it took me half of the movie to figure out that it was him.

lowsound

[Bob Lee (QSC)]

I just hope Cruise's character doesn't credit LRH for the plot to assassinate Hitler.