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09-14-2008, 07:34 PM
| | Believe in absurdities and you commit atrocities | | Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cleveland, OH | | | "Vise Grip" pliers moving to China.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...090400781.html
One of the best tools invented. I hope quality doesn't suffer due to this. The ones I've always used are nearly indestructible.
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09-14-2008, 08:14 PM
|  | Now a major motion picture | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hudson Valley, NY | | | ah, nuts. | 
09-14-2008, 09:11 PM
|  | Analyzer Records Endorsing Artist: Mesa/Boogie - Shop Manager/Tech, SF Guitarworks | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA | | Quote: |
Others are sure to be rattled as well. Vise-Grip is an iconic name in Nebraska, one of the most famous products invented or developed in the state, along with Kool-Aid, raisin bran, and the Reuben sandwich.
| I really hope they don't start out-sourcing Reuben sandwiches to China. | 
09-15-2008, 06:23 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Atlanta | | | duh, duh, duh, another one bites the dust
duh, duh, duh, another one bites th....
can anyone say...Capital Gains Tax?
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09-15-2008, 07:17 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Madison, NJ | | | Wow. I loved Irwin tools up until this. It was nice to know my Vice-Grips were American made. And I really don't know anyone who uses imported versions. People who REALLY use them buy the real deal and last forever. I guess it's the people who buy them for one project and never need them again who buy the cheapies.
I wonder if this will impact sales to contractors and professionals. Are there any other locking pliers made in the states?
Newell-Rubbermaid has screwed up a lot of companies shortly after acquiring them. I hope Irwin doesn't suffer the same fate.
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09-15-2008, 07:30 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds, UK | | | There's no reason for quality to suffer, other than the parent company seeking cost cuts by moving to China.
I do feel sorry for those workers in Nebraska who will now be out of a job.
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09-15-2008, 07:36 AM
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For my daughter's first birthday I got her a set of teeny tiny Vise Grips, because I figured she would need them someday.
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09-15-2008, 02:04 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: I'm a dyno man, N.of Detoilet | | | Hopefully they won't be radioactive like a cheese grater handle found lately.
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09-15-2008, 03:42 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: FL Panhandle | | Quote:
Originally Posted by tplyons Are there any other locking pliers made in the states?
| craftsman makes quite a few varieties of them; the couple i have are just as quality as "real" vise grips.
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09-15-2008, 03:57 PM
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09-15-2008, 04:04 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: New York | | | The other day our Snap-On guy was showing us some ratchets he had on special. I immediately noticed they felt lighter than a Snap-On ratchet usually does, and USA was not stamped on the ratchet anywhere.
Although the Snappy guy wouldn't admit it, I'm sure they're outsorcing now, right along with Mac tools. | 
09-15-2008, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Toasted There's no reason for quality to suffer, other than the parent company seeking cost cuts by moving to China.
I do feel sorry for those workers in Nebraska who will now be out of a job. | This, honestly. Well said. | 
09-15-2008, 04:45 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Coeur d'Alene | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Toasted There's no reason for quality to suffer, other than the parent company seeking cost cuts by moving to China.
I do feel sorry for those workers in Nebraska who will now be out of a job. | I think that would be true in theory (and I wish it was), but the track record of companies moving their stuff to China says otherwise.
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09-15-2008, 04:48 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lakeland, FL | | I'm going to buy one of each size before while they are still American!!
This is blasphemy!!
I have some Chineese ones on my welding table and they SUCK. I've never used a chinese tool that didn't SUCK. They are good for certain situations like if someone wants to borrow tools  I have a small chinese drill press and a buffer that work good but they've been rebuilt with American hardware, belts bearings.
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09-15-2008, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Toasted There's no reason for quality to suffer, other than the parent company seeking cost cuts by moving to China.
I do feel sorry for those workers in Nebraska who will now be out of a job. | I feel the same way - but it won't stop me from buying them. It's an international marketplace these days, and I'm way past fighting it.
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09-15-2008, 04:59 PM
| | | | I live in Omaha which always seems to have a stable economy, but the plant closing in Dewitt might just as well have been a tornado for the devastating effect it's going to have on the town's people, let alone the regional economy. It's the human and social pain that it inflicts, that goes beyond mere arguments about global manufaturing. It's been a sad past week in my state. | 
09-15-2008, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FL Knifemaker I'm going to buy one of each size before while they are still American!!
This is blasphemy!!
I have some Chineese ones on my welding table and they SUCK. I've never used a chinese tool that didn't SUCK. They are good for certain situations like if someone wants to borrow tools  I have a small chinese drill press and a buffer that work good but they've been rebuilt with American hardware, belts bearings. | Chinese tools have come a long way. Not that I would trade any of my Snap-On stuff for them, but in the industrial environment I work in I've found some that hold up really well. | 
09-15-2008, 05:46 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana | | | ugh. The one issue I actually agree with Obama on is taxing the crap out of companies that move their manufacturing overseas and/or giving huge tax breaks to the companies that don't.
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09-15-2008, 06:10 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Listowel/KW Ontario | | | I am going to go out and buy a pair in every size. Then I wont have to buy any again in my life. Irwin was always near the top of my list for buying tools because they weren't made in China.
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09-15-2008, 07:59 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lakeland, FL | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike N Chinese tools have come a long way. Not that I would trade any of my Snap-On stuff for them, but in the industrial environment I work in I've found some that hold up really well. | The chinese cannot produce the quality grades of steels we can for industrial use. They CAN make quality steel but it goes for their defense programs or it's not cost effective. I've been involved with several knife companies that have tried to have product (knives and multitools) produced there. They end up shipping US or Japan made blades and other "quality" steel components to China for injection molding and finishing. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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