What about the victims!!!

[Correlli]

Yep, this is small rant about the lastest shooting. Nothing unusual about that, it's happened a couple of times here in NZ. But what is really bugging me is that the gunman is getting the all the attention and the victims get zip.

I don't give a **** about the gunman, who he is, or what his problem is.

I want the know about the people he killed, who they are, what they do, and who they left behind.

There's a worrying trend happening here - media people.

[flakeh]

Originally Posted by Correlli

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I don't give a **** about the gunman, who he is, or what his problem is.

Maybe thats why he did it. No one cares about him. Maybe he did it as an urgent cry for attention.

I'm not sympathizing with the gunmen. I'm just saying's all

[Correlli]

Originally Posted by flakeh

Maybe thats why he did it. No one cares about him. Maybe he did it as an urgent cry for attention.

I'm not sympathizing with the gunmen. I'm just saying's all

nope, don't agree

Who are the victims is my argument.

[Captain Chaos]

6 people out of the 8 worked for the store.

[flakeh]

Originally Posted by Correlli

nope, don't agree

Who are the victims is my argument.

You never had to. I was voicing my honest opinion on issues like these, becuase I had a friend who was going to go on a shooting becuase no one cared.


I know what your argument is on, I was merely stating an opinion on your case.

[Correlli]

Originally Posted by Captain Chaos

6 people out of the 8 worked for the store.

That work place will not be the same.

[Dr. Cheese]

Usually when there has been a killing, it takes while before victim's names are released because they must be formally identified and next of kin must be notified.

The other thing to remember is that the victims are almost always "normal" people who did nothing to earn a violent death. The killer, who is abberrant, always get the attention because it is human nature to want want to know "why."

[Correlli]

Originally Posted by flakeh

You never had to. I was voicing my honest opinion on issues like these, becuase I had a friend who was going to go on a shooting becuase no one cared.


I know what your argument is on, I was merely stating an opinion on your case.

This is thread about the victims, not someone with a problem.

[Correlli]

Originally Posted by Dr. Cheese

Usually when there has been a killing, it takes while before victim's names are released because they must be formally identified and next of kin must be notified.

The other thing to remember is that the victims are almost always "normal" people who did nothing to earn a violent death. The killer, who is abberrant, always get the attention because it is human nature to want want to know "why."

point taken.

But I don't need to know his name, or what he looks like. It only adds to his "5 minutes of fame"

[i_got_a_mohawk]

Maybe the families of the victims are wanting to be able to mourn in peace without being a public/media spectacle?

Maybe they are having enough problems right now, other than wanting to deal with the hassle of reporters looking into the history or the people they loved?

Maybe they arent wanting to give interviews when their world has just been torn apart?

Maybe media and society are more worried about the scandal of an incident as opposed to the incident itself?

[i_got_a_mohawk]

Plus . . .

I can hardly imagine what it would be like to be in a situation where someone close died in such a manner. However, I sure as hell wouldnt be willing to give the media anything, profiteering off the death of someone that was close to me? Why the hell would I care if average Joe Public was interested, what is it to do with them?

Try and imagine yourself in the shoes of the family and friends of those people, im pretty sure the last thing most of them would want is media attention.

[Correlli]

Originally Posted by i_got_a_mohawk

Maybe the families of the victims are wanting to be able to mourn in peace without being a public/media spectacle?

Maybe they are having enough problems right now, other than wanting to deal with the hassle of reporters looking into the history or the people they loved?

Maybe they arent wanting to give interviews when their world has just been torn apart?

Maybe media and society are more worried about the scandal of an incident as opposed to the incident itself?

I'm only thinking of the victims.

All in good time. I still want to know who they are.

[i_got_a_mohawk]

Originally Posted by Correlli

I'm only thinking of the victims.

But why do the family want everyone to know about them? Thats what im meaning, wanting to know information doesnt mean that the family are wanting to give it out.

[burk48237]

Wouldn't it be great if instead of this never-ending long distant psycho babble analyzation of the butcher who selfishly ended the lives of others to get on good mourning America the lives of the victims and perhaps there friends and family were profiled?

[GregC]

Originally Posted by Correlli

Yep, this is small rant about the lastest shooting. Nothing unusual about that, it's happened a couple of times here in NZ. But what is really bugging me is that the gunman is getting the all the attention and the victims get zip.

I don't give a **** about the gunman, who he is, or what his problem is.

I want the know about the people he killed, who they are, what they do, and who they left behind.

There's a worrying trend happening here - media people.

We all care about the victims, not the killer, but don't blame this on the media. The families have to be notified first before the names are released. So this is being done out of consideration for them.

[iamlowsound]

Originally Posted by Captain Chaos

6 people out of the 8 worked for the store.

That employer is going to have a hard time finding people that will want to work there after this. I agree, I would like to know more about the victims, but the other side of me wants to know what was going on inside his head.

lowsound

[Correlli]

To the media people - I don't give a s**t about the gunman, or his "going out in style".

[Correlli]

Originally Posted by burk48237

Wouldn't it be great if instead of this never-ending long distant psycho babble analyzation of the butcher who selfishly ended the lives of others to get on good mourning America the lives of the victims and perhaps there friends and family were profiled?

profiled???? I love the way you word it with no feeling.

"never-ending long distant psycho babble analyzation" so you thought you'd add your bit of babble.

[middy]

Originally Posted by Correlli

profiled???? I love the way you word it with no feeling.

"never-ending long distant psycho babble analyzation" so you thought you'd add your bit of babble.

I think he was agreeing with you, sparky.

[Correlli]

Originally Posted by middy

I think he was agreeing with you, sparky.

So you feel it?

Justice can start with - no name, no face.