who thinks there should be a family guy 'a clockwork orange'

rob_thebassman · #1 01-05-2011, 06:14 PM

they've managed to do star wars really good, i bet they can do a really good parody of a clockwork orange, that pic of stewie as alex delarge looks mint

A.Diva · #2 01-05-2011, 08:20 PM

Hmmm, that could be interesting. I haven't watched that movie in a long time. Think I'll go check if it's on Netflix.

HEIST · #3 01-05-2011, 09:32 PM

I'm not a fan of the film :/

sonic assassin · #4 01-05-2011, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by HEIST

I'm not a fan of the film :/

the movie bites. the book is superb.

star wars was an easy target. ACO isnt.

although peter could be the big dumb droog. quagmire and chris as the other 2. bertrum as billy boy.

no real place for girls in there.

**jmattbassplaya** · #5 01-05-2011, 10:53 PM

I don't think Family Guy's key demographic is that knowledgeable of A Clockwork Orange or has seen it/read it.

Vic Winters · #6 01-05-2011, 10:58 PM

Wouldn't work. Not enough people know or relate to ACO to make it a worthwhile venture.

Big_Daddy · #7 01-05-2011, 11:01 PM

I disagree. A Clockwork Orange was brilliant (the book was...Difficult to read. Can't say I'm familiar with 60's slang from Britain...).

I was a big fan of early Family Guy. Everything from episode one up until the episode that got them kicked off the air (When You Wish Upon a....). Maybe one season when they got back. They've really gone down hill.

I could rant and rant about Family Guy, but I won't. Anywho, I really think it'd be a bad idea. I can't picture the 'interjecting reference stories' fitting in with the storyline.

Vic Winters · #8 01-05-2011, 11:19 PM

Star Wars is an epic. Everyone knows Star Wars, from my 80 year old grandmother to my 9 year old brother. It's literally everywhere. Very few things appeal to that broad of an audience. ACO does not have the kind of appeal or recognizable material to carry a half hour show, let alone an hour special.

Jon_West · #9 01-05-2011, 11:23 PM

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I disagree. A Clockwork Orange was brilliant (the book was...Difficult to read. Can't say I'm familiar with 60's slang from Britain...).

I was a big fan of early Family Guy. Everything from episode one up until the episode that got them kicked off the air (When You Wish Upon a....). Maybe one season when they got back. They've really gone down hill.

I could rant and rant about Family Guy, but I won't. Anywho, I really think it'd be a bad idea. I can't picture the 'interjecting reference stories' fitting in with the storyline.

I think most of it was made up slang from the author, no?

sonic assassin · #10 01-06-2011, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Big_Daddy

I disagree. A Clockwork Orange was brilliant (the book was...Difficult to read. Can't say I'm familiar with 60's slang from Britain...).

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Originally Posted by Jon_West

I think most of it was made up slang from the author, no?

in the edition that i read, there was a glossary in the back. any time i couldnt pick it up, id flip back. got it. keep reading.

and that bastard kubrik changed half of the plot. thats not artistic license, its destruction of art.

his movie was ok, but it was a complete re-imagining of the story.

Radical Edward · #11 01-06-2011, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by rob_thebassman

they've managed to do star wars really good, i bet they can do a really good parody of a clockwork orange, that pic of stewie as alex delarge looks mint

Yes, yes, yes and yes.

Darkstrike · #12 01-06-2011, 04:14 AM

It would be, in a word, dreadful.

Skitch it! · #13 01-06-2011, 06:12 AM

I wouldn't be into it, A Clockwork Orange, 1984 and Animal Farm were not fiction imo, they were premonitions.

The slang from ACO is based on certain words of different languages, a lot of them from Russian and rhyming slang.

IotaNet · #14 01-06-2011, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jon_West

I think most of it was made up slang from the author, no?

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Originally Posted by Skitch it!

The slang from ACO is based on certain words of different languages, a lot of them from Russian and rhyming slang.

Yes, it was

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Originally Posted by sonic assassin

in the edition that i read, there was a glossary in the back. any time i couldnt pick it up, id flip back. got it. keep reading ...

I read the book in High School (almost 35 years ago) and my edition had the glossary also. Unfortunately, I didn't realize this until after I finished the book!

Here's a fascinating article about the language: http://soomka.com/nadsat.html

sarcastro83 · #15 01-06-2011, 07:32 AM

I just don't think Family Guy should exist at all, but I dunno... just not a fan of that show. Used to be, but it got REALLY boring after a while.

Also, wasn't Nadsat (the language in Clockwork Orange) supposed to be a hybrid of cockney slang and Russian? I'm fairly certain that "devotchka" translates to "little girl" in Russian.

MatticusMania · #16 01-07-2011, 09:50 AM

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the movie bites. the book is superb.

Funny, I used to think that. I recently finished reading the book for the second time and now think the movie is actually better. The book is good, but its told as a narrative and Alex, your humble nare ater, really misses a lot of the visual description that makes the movie so worthwhile.

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Originally Posted by Big_Daddy

I disagree. A Clockwork Orange was brilliant (the book was...Difficult to read. Can't say I'm familiar with 60's slang from Britain...).

Actually, 'nadsat', the teen slang used in the book, is not really British slang from the 60s.

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From Wikipedia:
Nadsat is a mode of speech used by the nadsat, members of the teen subculture in the novel A Clockwork Orange. The anti-hero and narrator of the book, Alex, uses it in first-person style to relate the story to the reader. He also uses it to communicate with other characters in the novel, such as his droogs, parents, victims, and any authority-figures with whom he comes in contact. As with many speakers of non-standard varieties of English, Alex is capable of speaking standard English when he wants to. It is not a written language: the sense that readers get is of a transcription of vernacular speech.

Nadsat is basically English with some borrowed words from Russian. It also contains influences from Cockney rhyming slang and the King James Bible, the German language, some words of unclear origin, and some that Burgess invented. The word nadsat itself is the suffix of Russian numerals from 11 to 19 (-надцать). The suffix is an almost exact linguistic parallel to the English '-teen,' and is derived from 'на,' meaning 'on' and a shortened form of 'десять,' the number ten. 'Droog' is Russian друг 'close friend'.[2] Some of the words are also almost childish English such as eggiweg ('egg') and appy polly loggy ('apology'), as well as regular English slang sod and snuff it. The word like and the expression the old are often inserted arbitrarily into phrases.

At least one translation of Burgess' book into Russian solved the problem of how to illustrate the Nadsat words—by using transliterated, slang English words in places where Burgess used Russian ones. However, this solution was imperfect as it lacked the original abstractness. Borrowed English words with Russian inflection were widely used in Russian slang, especially among Russian hippies. Another translation used the original English spelling of Nadsat terms.

Cabazon · #17 01-07-2011, 10:13 AM

Stanley Kubrick already made a parody of A Clockwork Orange.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066921/

rob_thebassman · #18 01-07-2011, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sonic assassin

the movie bites. the book is superb.

star wars was an easy target. ACO isnt.

although peter could be the big dumb droog. quagmire and chris as the other 2. bertrum as billy boy.

no real place for girls in there.

i can imagine chris been the big dumb one tbh
joe swansan been the writer who gets crippled and bonny as his wife who gets raped
that bit where alex has to watch those films.. could be the fight between peter and the chicken haha

sonic assassin · #19 01-08-2011, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by rob_thebassman

i can imagine chris been the big dumb one tbh
joe swansan been the writer who gets crippled and bonny as his wife who gets raped
that bit where alex has to watch those films.. could be the fight between peter and the chicken haha

other than the chicken, id say you're right. forgot the cripple guy.

coreyfyfe · #20 01-08-2011, 08:14 AM

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I wouldn't be into it, A Clockwork Orange, 1984 and Animal Farm were not fiction imo, they were premonitions.

Your mention of 1984 reminded me of this comic which I greatly agree with (BNW vs 1984).

Either way, I think a family guy ACO would be lost on too many people, and would be a waste if they made it like the movie.