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01-25-2013, 01:30 PM
| | | | Who's right? My brother and i got into a very heated discussion about guitars, instruments and specially prices. One of us are saying "Prices are the measurement of quality of the guitar. Someone using a Squier or Epiphone are lower-level then Gibson or Fender. And studios use only their instruments, for CD's recording you can't use yours."
Other thing discussed is about quality of one guy. The strokes guitarrist, Nick Valensi had a signature Epiphone. My brother said: "he had a signature epiphone because he's bad. If he was good he had one Gibson signature." after i replied " well, is because nick use a Epiphone, since he started." he answered "Well, he's stupid. Gibson always would be better than epiphones"
Well. Is this something real? I wish to understand that. If he is right, i'm wrong about almost everything i belive in music, so give me what are your thoughts, please! | 
01-25-2013, 01:32 PM
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01-25-2013, 01:35 PM
|  | I want to be HER bicycle | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Northern California | | | I am not coming close to understanding the question here.
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01-25-2013, 01:37 PM
| | | | Ok, which one said "nu-uh", and which one went "UH-HUH!"...? That will decide it.
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01-25-2013, 01:37 PM
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Good one, Alex!
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01-25-2013, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ugly_bassplayer Carrots. | now i see the your point. Thanks Quote:
Originally Posted by bassteban I am not coming close to understanding the question here. | Its that:
1: Sub-brands(epiphone and squier) are so overwhelming worst than their counterpart(gibson and fender)?
2: A guy endorsed by Epiphone is worst for not being endorsed for gibson? | 
01-25-2013, 01:40 PM
| | | | Sorry about the hard english guys. I'm typing in my cellphone, and english(obviously) is not my main language. | 
01-25-2013, 01:40 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: West Covina (LA), SoCal | | | Your brother sounds like a guy who dont know too much about things.
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01-25-2013, 01:41 PM
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01-25-2013, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by faelcks Sorry about the hard english guys. I'm typing in my cellphone, and english(obviously) is not my main language. | You did pretty good there.
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01-25-2013, 01:44 PM
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01-25-2013, 01:55 PM
|  | I want to be HER bicycle | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Northern California | | | I did not mean to criticize your English, just stating I did not understand. I believe Epiphone makes some fine instruments, and Gibsons are often overrated.
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01-25-2013, 01:58 PM
|  | When I come around, homeboy, watch yo nuggets | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: San Diego, CA | | | Instruments that cost less do so because they either:
1) have cheaper parts
2) have cheaper design
3) have cheaper assembly costs
whether any of those translate to "better" or "worse" is for you to decide.
Endorsements are financial transactions, not necessarily a measure of any skill other than increasing profit margins.
And if you pay a studio to record, you choose what gear you want used, not them. | 
01-25-2013, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by smperry Your brother is wrong. Good day sir. | This pretty much sums it up.
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01-25-2013, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bassteban I am not coming close to understanding the question here. | +1
I think it's an argument about price being an indicator of quality, but then it turned into a tangent about the prestige of the company offering a signature model being an indicator of the ability of the player who has the signature model...I think. 
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01-25-2013, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by LiquidMidnight +1
I think it's an argument about price being an indicator of quality, but then it turned into a tangent about the prestige of the company offering a signature model being an indicator of the ability of the player who has the signature model...I think.  | That's it. Too many questions, too little text. | 
01-25-2013, 02:24 PM
| | | | I've seen a few instances where players started off with the tres-spendy signature models, then had subsequent ones offered on the "lower tier" line...does your brother think that means the player was awesome then got really bad so they punished him/her? Thoughts?
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01-25-2013, 02:26 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Your location can be this long | | | It doesn't matter what brand it is... it matters how much work they put into it.
For instance, an $800 Epiphone is probably going to be better than an $800 Gibson.
This is because an $800 guitar would be high-end for Epi, while 800 is measly pocket change from Gibson.
So Gibs would slap the guitar together and ship it out, while Epi would be much more careful with theirs.
If you're on a budget, get a high-end guitar from a budget company. Much better quality for the same price.
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