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04-27-2010, 05:45 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sioux Falls, SD | | | Why All The Hate for Jay Cutler?
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Disclosure: Long-time Bears fan here.
Putting on my flame suit now, but I spend a fair amount of time on chat boards for the Bears and the NFL at large, and I'm astounded how much negativity is directed towards this guy.
Most recent example. Cutler was asked if he'd like to have Terrell Owens on the Bears. He said Owens is good but he doesn't think he'd be a fit. He also said he liked the WRs they have and is looking forward to working with them. Immediately the comments are that Cutler is naive, stupid, etc. when just a few months ago he was criticized for doing the exact thing (throwing his WRs under the bus in public) that he was expected to do now. Also:
- They say he's a hot-head, arrogant and demanding. Really? Or does he just want to win and expect his teammates to do likewise.
- They say he's stupid. Interesting, considering the first time he and Mike Martz met before Martz' hiring the first thing they did was find a chalkboard and work on plays. Oh by the way Martz -- widely considered one of the smartest coaches of the modern era -- categorized Cutler's intelligence as "intimidating."
- They say he's selfish. Yet not once last year did he complain publicly when the worst OL in the league had him running for his life (when he wasn't rushing throws and/or getting hit).
- They say he's a loser. Chrissakes he played for freakin Vanderbilt. Losing is just part of the deal there. Denver's D was atrocious and Chicago's was no better. I personally think the Bears would not have won more than 3 games last year without him.
OK, I'll admit, I cursed him out loud several times last season for his ridiculous interceptions, way too often in the red zone. But I also saw him make throws I haven't seen any Chicago QB make my whole life and probably not more than 1 or 2 other QBs in the league today could make.
My theory is that Chicago fans hate him because we he cost us two 1st round drafts (which our moron GM would have wasted anyway), and he didn't singlehandedly take us to the SuperBowl (irrespective of a terrible OL, green as grass WRs and a moron of an offensive coordinator); Denver fans hate him cause... well, I don't know why. And the rest of the haters are scared shitless at what he could do in this league if he ever got his mind right and had a good team around him.
It seems like Cutler is the 3rd most hated QB in the league -- behind only JaMarcus Russell and Mike Vick -- and for the life of me I don't know why. Discuss.
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04-27-2010, 05:55 PM
|  | Online | | Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sunapee, New Hampshire | | | I currently dislike him because he engineered the late fourth quarter drive to a Bears field goal that beat my Steelers last season.
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04-27-2010, 05:57 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sioux Falls, SD | | Now that's the kind of hate I can deal with.  | 
04-27-2010, 07:10 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: South Florida | | | I think he is unstable emotionally due to the diabetes. He is what he is as a quarterback but the up and down behavior is ImO from the diabetes..... | 
04-27-2010, 07:31 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Galveston,TX/St.Pete,FL | | | I dont hate him at all. not a bears fan or denver fan though. i cant really make any judgments on his ability though because he is to often hindered by one of the worst O lines in the NFL.
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04-27-2010, 07:48 PM
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04-27-2010, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by waleross I think he is unstable emotionally due to the diabetes. He is what he is as a quarterback but the up and down behavior is ImO from the diabetes..... | Interesting theory re the diabetes. Frankly I forget about that part of the equation.
Funny thing is, he was a trainwreck in primetime games last year with the Bears. It was like he saved his worse performances for night games on national TV. So then the theory was floated that nighttime was when his diabetes kicked in and affected his vision and/or decision making. Far-fetched to say the least, but just goes to show how far some people will stretch things. | 
04-27-2010, 08:09 PM
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04-27-2010, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by sleepytime Master of the red-zone interception. | My answer to that as a Bears fan is that you shouldn't have to be throwing inside the red zone anyway. That's why you have big, mean O-Linemen and a hard-charging RB.
Well, you should ,anyway. The Bears don't... hence the problems. | 
04-27-2010, 10:54 PM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ohio | | | Well, he sucks because he's a Bear! | 
04-27-2010, 11:10 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kona, HI | | | Every Bear game I watched last season the color and analyst said they were terrible and Culter better start runner for his life. Many said it was unfortunate that Jay ended up on the Bears because there's nothing there that can help him be successful. Although not a Bear fan I started feeling sorry for the guy. The Bears are a pathetic football team and it doesn't stem from Jay Culter. Bear's and Raiders are very similar - lots, and lots of problems. No matter how good of a QB you are - without a decent team you're going to be below average at best. When the defense sucks, the running game is non-existent, receivers can't catch and your special teams are JV - you're going to suck as a QB. Like I said at the beginning, I like Jay but no one can have enough self confidence to overcome the shortcomings that the Bears exude. I hope they trade him or he's going to be looked at as just another average QB in the NFL as long as he's with the Bears.
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04-27-2010, 11:59 PM
| | You can't plagiarize yourself. | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Elgin, IL | | | I hate him because he kept throwing interceptions.
Typical Bear behavior to choke when it counts (REX!)
The Bears need a REAL quarterback. I haven't seen a good one since Jim McMahon.
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04-28-2010, 01:33 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tennessee | | | He has ha a terrible attitude with coaches and players in the past... Including at Vandy. He's very talented, just unstable to boot.
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04-28-2010, 06:45 AM
|  | I fling carrots | | Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Make a left at the Taco Bell | | | I lived in Denver during much of his time there. They *hated* him in Denver, even when he was a Bronco. His attitude is horrible, IMO.
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04-28-2010, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by waleross I think he is unstable emotionally due to the diabetes. He is what he is as a quarterback but the up and down behavior is ImO from the diabetes..... | Not sure what this means? I have had diabetes for 15 years and I am not unstable emotionally... | 
04-28-2010, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by disenchant Typical Bear behavior to choke when it counts (REX!) |  | 
04-28-2010, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by bassface73 Not sure what this means? I have had diabetes for 15 years and I am not unstable emotionally... | Well, maybe you are but never knew it until Dr. waleross diagnosed Cutler?
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04-28-2010, 08:36 AM
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04-28-2010, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by steamthief The second coming of Jeff George? | I've heard that one a lot. Really hoping it doesn't turn out to be true.
And BTW even as a Bears fan I've gotta say that pic of the Packer "packing" Grossman is damn funny. | 
04-28-2010, 10:14 AM
|  | One lab accident away from being a supervillain | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Powder Springs, Ga | | | He seems to have very few redeeming characteristics as a QB or as a person.
But I'm sure he's the way of the future.
Personally, I never saw what got all the sports yaps so hot 'n botherd over him in the first place. He has always looked like a perfectly mediocre QB to me.
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