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11-20-2012, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Snarf THIS. The guys that make it big in the casino economy are the tools. Real industry people I think are quite a bit better. | Someone mentioned earlier, and Ill go off this point.
There are basically 3 types of rich folks....
1) Old money- These folks took risks, started their own business, made sacrifices, and dedicated their life to their business. These men often came from poverty and created their own wealth. Ive know old money. These are usually your more polite, down to earth, less judgemental folks.
2) 2nd Generation money- These folks just got lucky because they popped out of the right vagina at the right time. Alot of heirs to old money are simply ne'dowells who arent fit to polish their father's shoes, and would probably be nothing without their daddy's money. They feel a sense of enititlement and superiority. Most of your "snobbish" types are 2nd Generation money.
3) Wanna bes- These arent necessarily 2nd Generation money. These are the folks who arent quite wealthy enough to be at the level of old money or 2nd generation money, but are working at it. You can often find them in a McMansion (usually void of much furniture), a leased Lexus or Mercedes, and always turning up at premiere "social events". They spend their money on country club dues in lieu of having a sofa in their living room. These people are usally even snottier than the new generation money.
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11-20-2012, 02:09 PM
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11-20-2012, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by powderfinger Someone mentioned earlier, and Ill go off this point.
There are basically 3 types of rich folks....
1) Old money- These folks took risks, started their own business, made sacrifices, and dedicated their life to their business. These men often came from poverty and created their own wealth. Ive know old money. These are usually your more polite, down to earth, less judgemental folks.
2) 2nd Generation money- These folks just got lucky because they popped out of the right vagina at the right time. Alot of heirs to old money are simply ne'dowells who arent fit to polish their father's shoes, and would probably be nothing without their daddy's money. They feel a sense of enititlement and superiority. Most of your "snobbish" types are 2nd Generation money.
3) Wanna bes- These arent necessarily 2nd Generation money. These are the folks who arent quite wealthy enough to be at the level of old money or 2nd generation money, but are working at it. You can often find them in a McMansion (usually void of much furniture), a leased Lexus or Mercedes, and always turning up at premiere "social events". They spend their money on country club dues in lieu of having a sofa in their living room. These people are usally even snottier than the new generation money. | No, you don't obsess about rich people. | 
11-20-2012, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by spade2you Then rich people shouldn't have any power over you. | What are you talking about? The world is run by corporations owned by rich people. Rich people call the shots and have power over the population at large. | 
11-20-2012, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by bass12 What are you talking about? The world is run by corporations owned by rich people. Rich people call the shots and have power over the population at large. | Rich people have power over you. They win. | 
11-20-2012, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by spade2you No, you don't obsess about rich people. | No im just obsessed with pissing you off at this pont.
Kidding... ligten up.
You gonna ever respond to my peace making posts, or you just being selective, and responded ones you can be negative about?
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11-20-2012, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by spade2you Rich people have power over you. They win. | They win, because people like you worship the ground they walk on, and attack anyone who questions them.
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11-20-2012, 02:37 PM
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11-20-2012, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by spade2you Rich people have power over you. They win. | Rich people have power over you also, no matter how much you may wish it weren't true.
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11-20-2012, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by spade2you Rich people have power over you. They win. | I'm not talking on a personal level but in a general, more global sense. Money buys power and influence. Fortunately, a lot of rich people use that power and influence in a constructive manner. | 
11-20-2012, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by aborgman Rich people have power over you also, no matter how much you may wish it weren't true. | Outside of stealing all my money, how so? | 
11-20-2012, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Tituscrow Wow. A lot of hot air in here. You guys should read the 'My Sweethearts Second Chance' thread and chill the flip out. | Sometimes I wish I could be more like Tituscrow. Well said my friend.
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11-20-2012, 02:57 PM
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Sometimes I wish I could be more like Tituscrow. Well said my friend. | Haha. I have my faults, my friend, like everybody else. I just get a little despondent when folk lose perspective. You read what that guy is going through, and then come here to see nothing but petty oneupmanship and last-word merchants. | 
11-20-2012, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by aborgman Rich people have power over you also, no matter how much you may wish it weren't true. | Yes, they indeed do.
The Congressmen that represent Spade2u at the state and federal level are both heavily influenced, and backed by "the rich". Gosh, whose Congressman isnt beholden to "the rich" these days? Congress makes laws that affect us ALL, even spade2u himself.
I bet either his boss (or if he owns his own business) deals with the rich each day. And if he has a boss, he depends on a rich man for his paycheck. And if he is a business owner... he depends on the rich to make his company profitable.
I bet he watches NFL games too. NFL teams.. all owned by rich guys. I bet he has cable. All cable companies owned by rich guys. I bet he has a phone? Yep.... his rates and plan is dictated by a rich man.
And so on...
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11-20-2012, 02:59 PM
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Ever notice how really successful charlatans (don't ask for examples - TB rules) gain their power through spreading fear of imminent end times and promoting xenophobia?
This post is non-partial as I take no sides in this.
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11-20-2012, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by powderfinger Yes, they indeed do.
The Congressmen that represent Spade2u at the state and federal level are both heavily influenced, and backed by "the rich". Gosh, whose Congressman isnt beholden to "the rich" these days? Congress makes laws that affect us ALL, even spade2u himself.
I bet either his boss (or if he owns his own business) deals with the rich each day. And if he has a boss, he depends on a rich man for his paycheck. And if he is a business owner... he depends on the rich to make his company profitable.
I bet he watches NFL games too. NFL teams.. all owned by rich guys. I bet he has cable. All cable companies owned by rich guys. I bet he has a phone? Yep.... his rates and plan is dictated by a rich man.
And so on... | I work for a state hospital. | 
11-20-2012, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by spade2you My decisions are ethical, although I don't really make enough to have financial impact on anyone other than my own family. | I meant that comment in a more general sense, not about you personally.
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Originally Posted by Tituscrow Haha. I have my faults, my friend, like everybody else. I just get a little despondent when folk lose perspective. You read what that guy is going through, and then come here to see nothing but petty oneupmanship and last-word merchants. | +1
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11-20-2012, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MatticusMania I meant that comment in a more general sense, not about you personally.
I think the world would benefit from a lot less narcissism and acting more in favor of just ourselves. | I was mostly playing around. I have somewhat of a sense of humor and am pretty twisted.
I'd like to care, but I have no faith in the political establishments (any and all sides) and little faith in people. Hubris, greed, and an inability to learn from the past seem to be constant mistakes. Too easy to blame various groups and I don't see any viable solutions.
As much as musicians tend to like picking at the upper class, the poor don't always do things to help themselves. Easy to blame, but not many can acknowledge their own mistakes. The banks and my university encouraged me to take out much bigger loans. I said "nope". A lot of others fell for it. People got greedy, just as much as banks.
Rich and poor alike, a lot of people lost their homes and jobs. We had an economy based on frivolous spending. When things got tight, the dung hit the fan because it wasn't a stable foundation. | 
11-20-2012, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by spade2you Outside of stealing all my money, how so? | Who decides what you see on TV?
Who makes editorial decisions in media?
Who votes on laws in the halls of congress?
Who makes decisions on your insurance costs?
Power: the ability to do something or act a certain way.
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11-20-2012, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by spade2you I work for a state hospital. | ...and none of that state hospital funding is at all controlled by the state or federal legislatures that are composed almost entirely of the wealthy?
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