Why are so many rich people stuck up?

[spade2you]

Originally Posted by aborgman

...and none of that state hospital funding is at all controlled by the state or federal legislatures that are composed almost entirely of the wealthy?

Not at my hospital. Mostly Medicare paying my salary.

[spade2you]

Originally Posted by aborgman

Who decides what you see on TV?

Who makes editorial decisions in media?

Who votes on laws in the halls of congress?

Who makes decisions on your insurance costs?

Power: the ability to do something or act a certain way.

I don't have time to pull a Brad.

1. I decide what I see.
2. The media.
3. Bureaucrats
4. Underwriters. My insurance has been going down. Good job.
Power=a unit of work. I work hard.

[6jase5]

Personally I think that it's wise to listen to a person that has been educated, worked hard, built a company, hired a lot of people, helped them have a living, retirement, etc. A lot of them make for good motivational speakers as well (coaches, CEO's, etc.) If he/she happens to be rich due to gaining wisdom and acting upon it, I'd rather trust that person than the "where's my check barely employed" opposite.

Being "controlled" by the rich is a rather broad term. So should we be interviewing the homeless for the next open Senate race?

I like uber rich people that spend money...and so does the economy.

[Smokin' Toaster]

Originally Posted by powderfinger

1) Im not bashing them because they have worked hard. Im bashing them, because some of them are condescending, stuck up, arrogant, self righteous, insufferable pissants.

Do some of them like M&M's too? Why are so many people who like M&M's stuck up?

Generalizations are bad...ummmm hummmm.

[aborgman]

Originally Posted by spade2you

Not at my hospital. Mostly Medicare paying my salary.

Medicare isn't at all controlled by the federal legislature?

Huh... I learn new things everyday

[spade2you]

Originally Posted by aborgman

Medicare isn't at all controlled by the federal legislature?

Huh... I learn new things everyday

Jesus H. Christ. The rich and the government rule everything. The media, what we eat. SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!!

I admit it. I am a ultra rich ultra conservative megadittohead. I make billions yearly exploiting the working class.

You truly are the proletariat. You alone keep it real.

[aborgman]

Originally Posted by spade2you

Jesus H. Christ. The rich and the government rule everything. The media, what we eat. SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!!

No, the rich don't control everything.

They just have some power over all of us due the ability to project power provided by their wealth.

They aren't the only ones with some power over us, nor is their power absolute and ultimately controlling.

You don't have to cling to a false dichotomy that either the rich have no power or the rich have all power, you can live in the grey multivariate reality.

[spade2you]

Originally Posted by Smokin' Toaster

Do some of them like M&M's too? Why are so many people who like M&M's stuck up?

Generalizations are bad...ummmm hummmm.

You must be a dittohead?

[spade2you]

Originally Posted by aborgman

No, the rich don't control everything.

They just have some power over all of us due the ability to project power provided by their wealth.

They aren't the only ones with some power over us, nor is their power absolute and ultimately controlling.

You don't have to cling to a false dichotomy that either the rich have no power or the rich have all power, you can live in the grey multivariate reality.

Nope. The rich control what I am typing right now.

[Eric Perry]

Originally Posted by spade2you

I was mostly playing around. I have somewhat of a sense of humor and am pretty twisted.

I'd like to care, but I have no faith in the political establishments (any and all sides) and little faith in people. Hubris, greed, and an inability to learn from the past seem to be constant mistakes. Too easy to blame various groups and I don't see any viable solutions.

As much as musicians tend to like picking at the upper class, the poor don't always do things to help themselves. Easy to blame, but not many can acknowledge their own mistakes. The banks and my university encouraged me to take out much bigger loans. I said "nope". A lot of others fell for it. People got greedy, just as much as banks.

Rich and poor alike, a lot of people lost their homes and jobs. We had an economy based on frivolous spending. When things got tight, the dung hit the fan because it wasn't a stable foundation.

Great post! Just like with school loans, the bank approved me for a crazy mortgage when I was house hunting. My Realtor was just as bad, trying to show me houses I KNEW I couldn't afford just because the bank pre-approved me at a certain amount. It infuriated me.

[MJ5150]

When we went to buy our first house in early 1999, we got the loan approved ahead of time so we knew what to look for. We wanted to buy something $60-75,000 less than our approval amount.

I made the mistake of showing a couple realtors our approval letter, and off they went showing us houses $25-50,000 more than we were approved for. Infuriated is a good word to describe how I felt too.

-Mike

[aborgman]

Originally Posted by MJ5150

When we went to buy our first house in early 1999, we got the loan approved ahead of time so we knew what to look for. We wanted to buy something $60-75,000 less than our approval amount.

I made the mistake of showing a couple realtors our approval letter, and off they went showing us houses $25-50,000 more than we were approved for. Infuriated is a good word to describe how I felt too.

-Mike

Yep...

Banks would have given me enough money to buy houses 2x what we bought - and would have put us on such razor thin margins as to be insane.

The banks that offered such high loan/income notes and the people that took them were both nuts.

[spade2you]

It mildly annoyed me because I kept telling them that THIS was the car I wanted and THIS was the house I wanted. I was aware I could probably afford something bigger and better. I suppose if I caved, they'd try to get me in something even more expensive if they could. They'd get a bigger cut if I caved in. Nothing personal.

I do recall getting a call from the car dealership after I got mine paid off, early I might add. "Wanna look at the new models?" Nope, I'm driving mine to the ground. "Are you sure?" Toyotas last 200,000 miles. I'm sure.

[Indiana Mike]

When I bought my last car I financed 10k, the car booked for $17.5k

I paid A total of 13.9k

The banker tried to get me to finance 17.5 k saying I could cash out and buy furniture ,tv or whatever I needed ...yes he said needed

I finally said 10k or I leave

I wish I had zero debt ....i do have a lot less than the majority though...

Anything other than cars or houses I pay cash

[Pacman]

Please find another place to discuss this.