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01-26-2008, 01:16 AM
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W/out-of-wedlock childbirth being so much more commonplace than say, 50 or 100 years ago(not commenting on that specifically), do you think the word 'bastard' has any significance anymore?
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01-26-2008, 01:19 AM
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01-26-2008, 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by HollowBassman It has just as much significance as the word "slut". |
No clarification there...
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01-26-2008, 01:27 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Hancock, MD | | I was just thinking, W/out-of-wedlock childbirth being so much more commonplace than say, 50 or 100 years ago, do you think the word 'slut' has any significance anymore?
I was gonna add a smilie to show that I was joking, but then the depressing nature of this topic made me sad and I just couldn't bring myself to smile. 
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01-26-2008, 01:37 AM
|  | that video LIES | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Northern California | | Well, again- I don't want to get into the right/wrongness of it, just provoke a bit of thought.
I appreciate your input.  <--not kidding smilie
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01-26-2008, 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by HollowBassman I was gonna add a smilie to show that I was joking, but then the depressing nature of this topic made me sad and I just couldn't bring myself to smile.  | Why do you find it depressing? | 
01-26-2008, 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by bassteban W/out-of-wedlock childbirth being so much more commonplace than say, 50 or 100 years ago(not commenting on that specifically), do you think the word 'bastard' has any significance anymore? | Not really. Makes me think of my Grandad, who was once a proud member of the Australian Order of Old Bastards.
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01-26-2008, 01:57 AM
|  | that video LIES | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Northern California | | | Hmmm I guess ones parents' not being married wouldn't neccesarily mean you wouldn't know who your father was(the original meaning of the aforementioned word, if I'm not mistaken).
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01-26-2008, 01:57 AM
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01-26-2008, 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by MakiSupaStar I'm a dirty bastard. What does that get me? | I am NOT starting another club.
..and bathe. I hear hot Asian chicks like cleanliness.
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01-26-2008, 02:02 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Woodinville, WA | | Well, according to the dictionary, it's Quote: |
a person born of unmarried parents; an illegitimate child.
| I guess that it would still qualify as a significant term.
If you're getting into the other degrading meanings of the term, then I don't understand your confusion of comparing it to the term "slut".
I vote "Yes, it's still significant until "Webster" says otherwise.
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01-26-2008, 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by gottawalk Well, according to the dictionary, it's
I guess that it would still qualify as a significant term.
If you're getting into the other degrading meanings of the term, then I don't understand your confusion of comparing it to the term "slut".
I vote "Yes, it's still significant until "Webster" says otherwise. | Well, given the above definition it's a bit more defineable(than what I took for the original meaning). No confusion then.
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01-26-2008, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by HollowBassman It has just as much significance as the word "slut". | no pics, no slut. | 
01-26-2008, 07:07 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: Leeds, UK | | | Bastard still means the same, but most people are a lot more progressive these days and realise a child born out of wedlock isn't always a bad thing. I think the word "bastard" has lost a lot of it's power, which I think is a good thing, as it was a horribly oppressive term and often meant that the poor kid got treated like dirt, for something that was out of their control. | 
01-26-2008, 07:10 AM
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01-26-2008, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt_W Bastard still means the same, but most people are a lot more progressive these days and realise a child born out of wedlock isn't always a bad thing. I think the word "bastard" has lost a lot of it's power, which I think is a good thing, as it was a horribly oppressive term and often meant that the poor kid got treated like dirt, for something that was out of their control. | +1 Thank you for that.
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01-26-2008, 07:30 AM
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01-26-2008, 07:37 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO | | | C'mon, how is this even a question? In the U.S. at least, the word 'bastard' as a technical term to describe an illegitimate child is definitely out of favor and very inappropriate in most conversations. That's because most people have grown up associating the word as a generic insult/curse.
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01-26-2008, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by mike_v_s The term "bastard" will never be obsolete in my vocabulary.
Mike | +1
It's practically a term of endearment in my family.
Bob
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01-26-2008, 09:29 AM
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Haha try telling Gene Ray at http://timecube.com/ that "bastard" is obsolete. :P
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