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04-07-2008, 05:18 PM
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04-07-2008, 05:19 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: College Station, Texas | | That must be horrible for the family.  |
04-07-2008, 05:26 PM
|  | is, against all odds, still a scuba viking. | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alta Loma, California | | How awful! *sigh* people really don't understand how much their death affects the people that love them 
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04-07-2008, 05:31 PM
| | | | Not to sound insensitive, but a few things set off alarms in my head right away:
1) [Cue mysterious sounding music]Could some evil have followed the heart to the new guy?
2) Makes you wonder about a woman that drove two men to kill themselves.
3) Could it NOT have been suicide, but murder? ...And the woman staged both the very same way? |
04-07-2008, 05:33 PM
| | | | You've got to seriously pity the woman, but suspicion may lurk...not a good position. Poor guy and family. |
04-07-2008, 05:52 PM
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04-07-2008, 06:08 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Shepherd, MI | | Quote:
Originally Posted by *smb You've got to seriously pity the woman, but suspicion may lurk...not a good position. Poor family. | fixed it for ya.
anyone that takes their own life does not deserve sympathy.
P.S. before I get flamed for this I would like to say that I had an uncle that killed himself, and after watching what my mother went through I will never forgive him. |
04-07-2008, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by no1likesme fixed it for ya.
anyone that takes their own life does not deserve sympathy.
P.S. before I get flamed for this I would like to say that I had an uncle that killed himself, and after watching what my mother went through I will never forgive him. | I don't think a person considering suicide is in a position to think rationally about what harm to people that care about them might be done. It's not a decision anyone takes lightly, but it's hard to be objective and unselfish when you feel so bad you'd rather be dead. I've got every sympathy for suicides, myself. |
04-07-2008, 06:30 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ireland | | | Oh no a stranger commits suicide. I'm sure it happens all the time. Someone has probably killed themselves in the time it has taken you to read this post. I'm sure it's horrible for the people that knew him.
But you have to get to the stage where you don't give a crap about hearing stuff like this because if you let stuff like this get to you it'll get to the stage where you wont even be motivated to get out of bed in the morning
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04-07-2008, 06:32 PM
| | | | Depression disturbs the mental processes. There's not a more sneaky disease than the one which affects your will to get better.
Blaming a depressive guy for committing suicide is like blaming an armless guy for not writing well. |
04-07-2008, 06:38 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lincolnshire, UK | | interesting. i saw a documentary on transplant memory once, it seems very plausible and this backs up the theory a bit.
it's all to do with neural memory, particulary in the heart. apparently there's a nerve cluster very much like a small brain. the function of this is to keep the heart going or something. it's been theorised that this "mini-brain" is capable of memory retention and therefore memory can be transfered through a donor heart. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_memory
here's a rather sparse wiki entry about it. |
04-07-2008, 06:39 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Wilmington, NC | | | Looks like they transplanted a broken heart.
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04-07-2008, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDarkReaver interesting. i saw a documentary on transplant memory once, it seems very plausible and this backs up the theory a bit.
it's all to do with neural memory, particulary in the heart. apparently there's a nerve cluster very much like a small brain. the function of this is to keep the heart going or something. it's been theorised that this "mini-brain" is capable of memory retention and therefore memory can be transfered through a donor heart. | So basically the feedback that the heart gives would lead the hormonal mechanisms of the receiver's body into a lessened production of serotonin (to sum it up very broadly), thus replicating the depressive state of the donor?
Busted?
Confirmed?
Plausible. |
04-07-2008, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Lalabadie So basically the feedback that the heart gives would lead the hormonal mechanisms of the receiver's body into a lessened production of serotonin (to sum it up very broadly), thus replicating the depressive state of the donor?
Busted?
Confirmed?
Plausible. | if indeed depression is a mental state that can be contained within one's memory. |
04-07-2008, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Lalabadie Blaming a depressive guy for committing suicide is like blaming an armless guy for not writing well. | LOL
I guess we are gonna have to disagree on this one. |
04-07-2008, 06:56 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: On The Bayou | | | He married the donor's widow. |
04-07-2008, 06:57 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Houston, TX | | Quote:
Originally Posted by doctorjazz Looks like they transplanted a broken heart. |
wow. you summed it all up right there. |
04-07-2008, 09:24 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: México City | | | This is sad, but I can't stop thinking of a movie: "21 gramos"... If anyone knows what I'm talking about you'll be amazed too... not in a good way that's for sure... |
04-07-2008, 09:32 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Casselberry, Florida | | | Suicide is for the weak. |
04-07-2008, 10:00 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Calgary, AB, Canada | | Did the heart then get transplanted into some else? Quote: |
P.S. before I get flamed for this I would like to say that I had an uncle that killed himself, and after watching what my mother went through I will never forgive him.
| As for not having sympathy for the person committing suicide, why not? Is there such a huge difference between someone suddenly committing suicide or suddenly getting killed in a car wreck? The person is gone either way and there is still grief involved for the family. Yes, your mother may have gone through some very rough things, but would the situation be any different if someone killed him or he died in an accident? She would still have gone through a rough time because he was gone.
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