Is it Wrong to Carry a Child With Down Syndrome?

[Unrepresented]

If you are made aware of its disabilities before birth?

No political discussion implied.

[iamlowsound]

No. It is a life.

lowsound

[Jared Lash]

Wrong? How could it be wrong?

But as I touched on in the other thread, I wonder how many mothers who wouldn't carry that child to term knowing it had Down's Syndrome would do so if it could be genetically manipulated out.

Or how many people would be ok with that sort of eugenics at all.

[Marley's Ghost]

Absolutely not. It is the mother's choice. One could expect a difficult life raising a child with severe disabilities, but there are many stories of parents who feel true love and meaningful existence through service and subjugating one's own needs to those of another.

[WalterBush]

Absolutely, unequivocally not.

[i_got_a_mohawk]

It isnt wrong to want to carry a child with Downs, just as it isnt wrong for a partent wanting to abort a child with Downs.

It is 100% the choice of the parents, and thats that IMO

[Unrepresented]

What about the special education expenses that the child will incur that will be taken from the budget of the other students? That's kinda selfish isn't it?

[artistanbul]

if everyone were to be on their own, why do we need governments anyway? :P
but I also think there should also be special educations for super intelligent kids. they need it much more than special kids, and it pays back immensely as well.

to the OP I think it's a mother's choice.
and I think it's wrong to discarry it.

[hbarcat]

Homo Sapiens (Man - "The Wise") is just now standing in the middle of the road of our own evolution and contemplating this side path we have come across:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

This path bears a sign that says SHORTCUT and it heads straight into a dense forest that we can't see very far into.

[Elrend]

It's all up to the mother.

[invader3k]

Originally Posted by Unrepresented

What about the special education expenses that the child will incur that will be taken from the budget of the other students? That's kinda selfish isn't it?

Isn't it more selfish to deny that child an education, or life at all? I've never understood why as a society we celebrate all kinds of diversity and unique life choices, but it's become somewhat socially acceptable to justify the disposal of those with genetic abnormalities.

Look through history and look at the kinds of peoples who have killed the mentally retarded, or those who were "inferior". I don't see why anyone would want to put themselves in such a camp.

[HollowBassman]

If by Down Syndrome you mean that they are deathly afraid of being picked up, then yes!

[Jeremy Crockett]

Originally Posted by Unrepresented

What about the special education expenses that the child will incur that will be taken from the budget of the other students? That's kinda selfish isn't it?

Social Darwinism at it finest. Too much trouble to raise a child? Kill it! Too much trouble to care for the elderly when they become a burden? Kill them!

[Unrepresented]

Originally Posted by invader3k

Isn't it more selfish to deny that child an education, or life at all? I've never understood why as a society we celebrate all kinds of diversity and unique life choices, but it's become somewhat socially acceptable to justify the disposal of those with genetic abnormalities.

We don't celebrate all kinds of diversity. We lock away people in prisons and asylums for being too "diverse."

Is it good planning to knowingly include a member into our society who we know won't be able to contribute and in will in fact need a good deal of additional care and assistance that could be dedicated towards a more capable member?

Originally Posted by invader3k

Look through history and look at the kinds of peoples who have killed the mentally retarded, or those who were "inferior". I don't see why anyone would want to put themselves in such a camp.

I won't get into an abortion/murder debate here because that's politics and will quickly get this thread locked, however, I feel that they are certainly different things. Abortion is prevention if done early enough.

Originally Posted by Jeremy Crockett

Social Darwinism at it finest. Too much trouble to raise a child? Kill it! Too much trouble to care for the elderly when they become a burden? Kill them!

Most won't be breeding since they have decreased fertility rates. That goes for both the elderly and those with Down Syndrome.

[Spector_Ray]

Originally Posted by Unrepresented

What about the special education expenses that the child will incur that will be taken from the budget of the other students? That's kinda selfish isn't it?

If it's money you're worried about, uh....nevermind. I don't want to get this thread locked.

In a manner of speaking, no it isn't wrong because there are plenty of people with Down's Syndrome who are productive members of society. Ask the question to anybody with any other physical or mental disability.

[D.Don]

Originally Posted by i_got_a_mohawk

It isnt wrong to want to carry a child with Downs, just as it isnt wrong for a partent wanting to abort a child with Downs.

It is 100% the choice of the parents, and thats that IMO

+1

The better choice though every time of the year, is adoption.

There's ****loads of kids all over the world who never get a chance coz they ended up at an orphanage somewhere in the "third world" ... Why make more babies, care for them babies already alive instead...

D.Don

[artistanbul]

while adoption is good, breeding is good as well. mix'n match.

[GeneralElectric]

I think it is selfish for the parent to keep the child as the down syndrome'd kid will have a lower quality of life than a normal kid of equivalent age

[Unrepresented]

Originally Posted by Spector_Ray

If it's money you're worried about, uh....nevermind. I don't want to get this thread locked.

In a manner of speaking, no it isn't wrong because there are plenty of people with Down's Syndrome who are productive members of society. Ask the question to anybody with any other physical or mental disability.

What do you consider productive members of society? There are typically special programs that use subsidies to get those with disabilities into menial jobs.

Originally Posted by artistanbul

while adoption is good, breeding is good as well. mix'n match.

But adoption doesn't solve the problem, it simply shifts the burdens.

[Jeremy Crockett]

This thread is absolutely revolting. Once again we see the sickening effect Darwinism has on the value of human life. Child too troublesome to raise? Kill it!