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12-19-2008, 10:30 PM
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Looks like the RIAA is getting wise. This new angle will be more effective at essentially doing the same thing, but w/out all the bad publicity. What do you think? Quote:
Music Industry to Abandon Mass Suits
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By SARAH MCBRIDE and ETHAN SMITH
After years of suing thousands of people for allegedly stealing music via the Internet, the recording industry is set to drop its legal assault as it searches for more effective ways to combat online music piracy.
The decision represents an abrupt shift of strategy for the industry, which has opened legal proceedings against about 35,000 people since 2003. Critics say the legal offensive ultimately did little to stem the tide of illegally downloaded music. And it created a public-relations disaster for the industry, whose lawsuits targeted, among others, several single mothers, a dead person and a 13-year-old girl.
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Instead, the Recording Industry Association of America said it plans to try an approach that relies on the cooperation of Internet-service providers. The trade group said it has hashed out preliminary agreements with major ISPs under which it will send an email to the provider when it finds a provider's customers making music available online for others to take.
Depending on the agreement, the ISP will either forward the note to customers, or alert customers that they appear to be uploading music illegally, and ask them to stop. If the customers continue the file-sharing, they will get one or two more emails, perhaps accompanied by slower service from the provider. Finally, the ISP may cut off their access altogether.
The RIAA said it has agreements in principle with some ISPs, but declined to say which ones. But ISPs, which are increasingly cutting content deals of their own with entertainment companies, may have more incentive to work with the music labels now than in previous years.
The new approach dispenses with one of the most contentious parts of the lawsuit strategy, which involved filing lawsuits requiring ISPs to disclose the identities of file sharers. Under the new strategy, the RIAA would forward its emails to the ISPs without demanding to know the customers' identity.
Though the industry group is reserving the right to sue people who are particularly heavy file sharers, or who ignore repeated warnings, it expects its lawsuits to decline to a trickle. The group stopped filing mass lawsuits early this fall.
It isn't clear that the new strategy will work or how effective the collaboration with the ISPs will be. "There isn't any silver-bullet anti-piracy solution," said Eric Garland, president of BigChampagne LLC, a piracy consulting company.
Mr. Garland said he likes the idea of a solution that works more with consumers. In the years since the RIAA began its mass legal action, "It has become abundantly clear that the carrot is far more important than the stick." Indeed, many in the music industry felt the lawsuits had outlived their usefulness.
"I'd give them credit for stopping what they've already been doing because it's been so destructive," said Brian Toder, who represents a Minnesota mother involved in a high-profile file-sharing case. But his client isn't off the hook. The RIAA said it plans to continue with outstanding lawsuits.
Over the summer, New York State Attorney General Andrew Cuomo began brokering an agreement between the recording industry and the ISPs that would address both sides' piracy concerns. "We wanted to end the litigation," said Steven Cohen, Mr. Cuomo's chief of staff. "It's not helpful."
As the RIAA worked to cut deals with individual ISPs, Mr. Cuomo's office started working on a broader plan under which major ISPs would agree to work to prevent illegal file-sharing.
The RIAA believes the new strategy will reach more people, which itself is a deterrent. "Part of the issue with infringement is for people to be aware that their actions are not anonymous," said Mitch Bainwol, the group's chairman.
Mr. Bainwol said that while he thought the litigation had been effective in some regards, new methods were now available to the industry. "Over the course of five years, the marketplace has changed," he said in an interview. Litigation, he said, was successful in raising the public's awareness that file-sharing is illegal, but now he wants to try a strategy he thinks could prove more successful.
The RIAA says piracy would have been even worse without the lawsuits. Citing data from consulting firm NPD Group Inc., the industry says the percentage of Internet users who download music over the Internet has remained fairly constant, hovering around 19% over the past few years. However, the volume of music files shared over the Internet has grown steadily.
Meanwhile, music sales continue to fall. In 2003, the industry sold 656 million albums. In 2007, the number fell to 500 million CDs and digital albums, plus 844 million paid individual song downloads -- hardly enough to make up the decline in album sales.
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12-19-2008, 10:36 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Wisconsin | | | About damn time. This will probably be much more effective than the old "let's sue for $400 million dollars" way. | 
12-20-2008, 12:03 PM
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12-20-2008, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bassrique Will this new strategy stop bit torrent? |
dunno. Probably not...
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12-20-2008, 12:58 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Northwest Florida | | | Those people that download the free music do need to be punished; hopefully the new method will work better.
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12-20-2008, 01:18 PM
|  | Registered User Maker of HPF-Pre upright bass preamp | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Madison WI | | | Funny how the RIAA loses interest in filing lawsuits, just as a few defendants are beginning to fight rather than settle. Like they say, cockroaches run away when you turn on the lights. | 
12-20-2008, 02:27 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado | | | The RIAA has been flaming, egregious idiots about this and made nothing but enemies. This is just a tiny bit of rational thinking creeping into their warped mentality.
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12-20-2008, 02:38 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan | | | Makes sense to me. I don't know if this holds true for cable internet, but why should my internet surfing be slower just because someone next door wants to download 10 movies at once? | 
12-20-2008, 06:19 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NY, NY | | | There's a couple of inherent problems in this including increased scrutiny of people's web traffic history.
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12-20-2008, 07:51 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Northwest Indiana | | Since just about every single bit of music I listen to is on non-RIAA labels, this BS move won't effect me one bit.
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12-20-2008, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by KeithBMI Makes sense to me. I don't know if this holds true for cable internet, but why should my internet surfing be slower just because someone next door wants to download 10 movies at once? | yeah, like what if you're stealing the old persons wireless nextdoor for downloading your interwebs. does their service suffer too? This plan has lots of holes in it.
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12-20-2008, 07:54 PM
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12-20-2008, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by armywalaby Looks like we gotta go back dubbing cassettes you guys... | LOL
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12-20-2008, 08:02 PM
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12-21-2008, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by OtterOnBass Hopefully the work of musicians won't be seen as worthless anymore. | They'll still make peanuts.
Part of the problem of the RIAA is the format move towards digital media as you can hold 5,000 songs on an iPod or have a trunkful of CDs with the same amount of songs. What you're seeing, is the CD industry sinking slowly into extinction.
Sound quality on both CDs and MP3s and M4a's and all those other digital file types have crap sound quality anyways.
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