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01-22-2013, 01:33 PM
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These things are picking up steam. We should ALL be concerned!  http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/22...texas-college/
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01-22-2013, 01:41 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Greenville, NC USA | | | First of all, the term "shooting" bugs me. That puts the boogie man status on the gun. These are MURDERS (or at least attempted) committed by PEOPLE, not shootings committed by guns. Murders are murders even if the weapon is a hammer. And they are committed by MURDERERS, not guns or hammers.
That being said, the one referenced in your link was also a shootout between two people, not a one-sided shooting. In other words, this was not another madman attempting to kill innocent unarmed people. This was a FIGHT between tow people who BOTH had guns. This is very different from the mass murders of recent months. This is another reason why the term "shooting" in inaccurate (pun intended). It lumps all of these events into the same pile even though the circumstances are completely different.
None of these things are good. None are excusable. But context is as important as the events themselves.
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01-22-2013, 02:03 PM
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The neighborhood that surrounds this campus is not a good one. This was a shoot out between two thugs, two others were caught in the crossfire, one other person had a heart attack. I going to guess that this happened over being "dissed".
If people insist on shooting each other over BS reasons, then at least do it in a clear area and have it conducted as an old fashioned duel at 10 paces. If you want to kill yourselves, I'm all for it, but leave innocent people alone.
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01-22-2013, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric Perry These things are picking up steam. | These things are picking up press. |
01-22-2013, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Texan ...If you want to kill yourselves, I'm all for it, but leave innocent people alone. | Agree 110%!
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01-22-2013, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by two fingers First of all, the term "shooting" bugs me. That puts the boogie man status on the gun. These are MURDERS (or at least attempted) committed by PEOPLE, not shootings committed by guns. Murders are murders even if the weapon is a hammer. And they are committed by MURDERERS, not guns or hammers.
That being said, the one referenced in your link was also a shootout between two people, not a one-sided shooting. In other words, this was not another madman attempting to kill innocent unarmed people. This was a FIGHT between tow people who BOTH had guns. This is very different from the mass murders of recent months. This is another reason why the term "shooting" in inaccurate (pun intended). It lumps all of these events into the same pile even though the circumstances are completely different.
None of these things are good. None are excusable. But context is as important as the events themselves. | I bet the two involved today are upstanding citizens, too. Never been in trouble, nice and quiet & they always remember to say "Please" and "Thank you". Couldn't POSSIBLY be involved in other criminal activity, right?
Personally, I think these incidents should remain local until the facts are known and the case has been closed. If it's a public official, make it widely known but otherwise, making it public immediately after or even as it's happening just fans the flames for someone else who's on the brink of doing something equally stupid, or worse.
All of this "Breaking News!" crap is unnecessary, IMO. Unless it would keep someone from going to the place where something is happening, they should keep it quiet. |
01-22-2013, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 1958Bassman All of this "Breaking News!" crap is unnecessary, IMO. Unless it would keep someone from going to the place where something is happening, they should keep it quiet. | If the people viewing weren't so bored with their own lives, they wouldn't insist on instant-voyeurism out of their news outlets. The new style definitely sucks, but it's what's selling. Sensationalism sells.
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01-22-2013, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 1958Bassman I bet the two involved today are upstanding citizens, too. Never been in trouble, nice and quiet & they always remember to say "Please" and "Thank you". Couldn't POSSIBLY be involved in other criminal activity, right?
Personally, I think these incidents should remain local until the facts are known and the case has been closed. If it's a public official, make it widely known but otherwise, making it public immediately after or even as it's happening just fans the flames for someone else who's on the brink of doing something equally stupid, or worse.
All of this "Breaking News!" crap is unnecessary, IMO. Unless it would keep someone from going to the place where something is happening, they should keep it quiet. | This. I often wonder if there"s a sick ^&*# out there watching the coverage thinking "if I could top this guy"s body count then I'd be famous too."
How long before someone asks "what is the media"s culpability in these incidents?"
Maybe wall-to-wall coverage of the life story of the murderer is akin to shouting fire in a crowded theatre?
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01-22-2013, 02:16 PM
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"A murder" that's exactly what these are! I was starting to feel like I was the only one thinking that. |
01-22-2013, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Yerf Dog These things are picking up press. | yup
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01-22-2013, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric Perry These things are picking up steam. We should ALL be concerned! | A few weeks ago some kid showed up at his high school here in the L.A. area with the intention of a mass killing. Apparently he was tackled by the school staff before he could get off a shot.
What concerned me was that this story was essentially buried by the press. I saw it in the newspaper but there was no mention on television.
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01-22-2013, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Smokin' Toaster
How long before someone asks "what is the media"s culpability in these incidents?"
| I think this was asked a long time ago, and the (media's) response was something like:
'"We have no culpability whatsoever. But dont take offense when we capitalise on the anguish and heartache of those individuals whos lives are destroyed by these events. Hey, IF IT BLEEDS, IT LEADS. Everyone knows that... Sheesh. " |
01-22-2013, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by matante A few weeks ago some kid showed up at his high school here in the L.A. area with the intention of a mass killing. Apparently he was tackled by the school staff before he could get off a shot.
What concerned me was that this story was essentially buried by the press. I saw it in the newspaper but there was no mention on television. | And that's a massive part of the problem!
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01-22-2013, 02:38 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NW England | | Hey Eric - completely off topic, but thanks for watching my back over in that locked lunatic thread 
I'd have PM'd you, Matticus and Ziltoid but the new TB App is being difficult again.
Anyway, carry on with your gun talk, "y'all" ( is that right?) |
01-22-2013, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by matante A few weeks ago some kid showed up at his high school here in the L.A. area with the intention of a mass killing. Apparently he was tackled by the school staff before he could get off a shot.
What concerned me was that this story was essentially buried by the press. I saw it in the newspaper but there was no mention on television. | I wonder if his bass was buzzing also? |
01-22-2013, 02:48 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mount Airy, North Carolina | | Then you have retarded school officials doing stupid ^&%$ like what they did to this poor little 5 year old. http://nation.foxnews.com/gun-contro...ble-gun-school
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01-22-2013, 02:49 PM
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where is Lou Grant when we need him?
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01-22-2013, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by alembicguy I wonder if his bass was buzzing also? | ???
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01-22-2013, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by matante ??? | OOF! Crossthread! http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f8/ple...please-950845/
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01-22-2013, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by hover If the people viewing weren't so bored with their own lives, they wouldn't insist on instant-voyeurism out of their news outlets. The new style definitely sucks, but it's what's selling. Sensationalism sells. | That's why "reality TV" exists. Let people watch that crap, unless they actually want to do something with their lives. I wouldn't be surprised, at all, to find that all of these shooters watched the BS on TV and wanted to be famous.
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